Hyposalinity Treatment Log

Wow. I wish I was on my way up. I am currently on my way down to hypo treatment for ich. Thanks for posting the info, I always learn something from these posts.
 
Wow. I wish I was on my way up. I am currently on my way down to hypo treatment for ich. Thanks for posting the info, I always learn something from these posts.

good luck to you! as you have seen from my log the biggest challenge was keeping the ammonia under control as my filter caught up. after that completed, things became much easier. Hopefully you were more prepared than me and had a ready cycled filtration system for your hospital tank!
 
1.021 all is well is the world. The yellow tang is so much happier now, it is like another fish. Starting to swim up to eat instead of waiting for it to float in front of it's mouth.

1 week and 1 day until I can put a fish into the DT. I am going to go with the yellow tang first, it could use the nourishment and some time to itself to get over some shyness issues.
 
We are now up to 1.023. I have a few gallons of extra salty water left, over the first day or two this week I will do some small water changes until I get to 1.025. Other than that, just have to wait out the week.
 
Well, the time has come to put the fish back into the DT. After a lot of thought, I decided to reintroduce everyone. I never had ammonia problems when I added 3 fish in the past, and the tank is much more established now. i am going to keep a close eye on it for the first few days, but I believe it will be fine.

It is so great to have the fish back in there. As always, they are a little nervous and shy being that they have moved to their new home.

That pretty much conculdes my log of hyposalinity, although I may write up a summary for anyone thinking about doing it. There is a lot written about the difficulty to maintain salinity, however I did not find that hard at all. Same with pH, with proper preparation this was easily maintained with less than $.50 of baking soda.
 
did you do to many water changes? so.. how often you have to do water changes if you don´t have any test at all?
I know ammonia may kill a fish within days or hours.. how did you maintain good water quality within the treatment?
 
Good to hear everything went pretty well for you, I just finished hypo on my 400 fowlr system and will be raising salinity soon , I had no trouble with ph my water is naturally hard and ph is around 8.2 so I did not need to add anything.

Also after getting my salinity to 1.009 it was very easy to maintain due to the fact my system was so large that the 1 gallon evap a day had not effect.Tried the copper thing 3 times and each time ich came back . I noticed using hypo after getting salinity down to .009 that the ich quickly disappeared and never showed visible signs again, I can not say that for copper where after reching the .5 level there was still visible signs a week or so after.

If I ever had to deal with ich again going to do either hypo or try QS. And from here on out will use hypo to qt every fish for 4 weeks.

Please post how the fish do in your DT
 
did you do to many water changes? so.. how often you have to do water changes if you don´t have any test at all?
I know ammonia may kill a fish within days or hours.. how did you maintain good water quality within the treatment?

test kits are a must. for the first 3 weeks i tested at least 1 time a day, sometimes twice. I used seachem alpha to keep it under control at the beginning until the filter caught up. Now i have a QT ready to go for the next fish!
 
Stupid Move = Ich

Stupid Move = Ich

Hi all,

Less than a week back in and the ich is already back. I should have known better and not been a complete fool. I added some corals and inverts during the 8 week period, and that is my downfalling.

The hyposalinity worked great, there was no ich in the QT tank for most of those 8 weeks.

Now I feel like the stupidest idiot on the world, thinking I could beat the system. Honestly, if they don't pull through I think that's it for me in this hobby. It's taking too much time from my family, not to mention money. I will try all the fools gold again such as garlic and what not.....but I am not holding my breath at all for it to work.

My apologies to everyone who takes the time to write out the procedure.....I want anyone reading this to know the system works if you can stick to it.

I am going to lose a lot of money that I only put in a couple months ago, this hobby has chewed up and spit out another fool.

Thanks everyone for reading, hopefully by some magical chance it will go away.
 
Sorry to hear that it is back mate. I have just done a full course of hypo and introduced my fish back into the DT and my fish have also caught ich again. I am the same as you at the moment trying all the witch doctor cures e.g garlic ext.
 
Sorry to hear about your disappointing results. It sucks when patience and diligence don't pay off. I've never done an 8 wk qt and even though some of my fish have had ich, I honestly believe that it was more brought out by stress factors.. I know that's a toxic satement in some of these forums but IME I have done more damage panicking at ich then saying relaxed and letting go. I have done freshwater dips and various additives. Nothing eliminates it IMO.. My recent example was about 6 months ago, I had a kole tang that was eating and doing well. I then added a blue hippo and within 3 days they both had it. The blue hippo, being more aggressive and voracious eater must have intimidated the kole because it stopped eating. Within about 3 weeks, I lost the kole tang. However, the hippo has been perfect since. Not even the slightest white spot on him.. I think that the stress of being transported to a new environment and effort of establishing the pecking order brought it on. I may be very wrong, but these are my observations. All in all, I think as long as they are eating well, leave them alone.
This hobby does have it's share of F you moments but hang in there. The more difficult the puzzle, the greater the feeling when successful. Good luck and I hope all your fish pull through
 
That's good to hear phishguy. I only have a YT and a scopas tang and the scopas was riddled with WS when I finished work last night but my YT seems to be evading it at the moment. The YT was the one that got it the first time round and I have just introduced the scopas at the weekend. He is still feeding like a pig so hopefully things will sort itself out.
 
Sorry for hijacking your thread mess7777.

all good, this is good discussion. I would love to hear how things turn out for you. I can't recall being this discouraged about anything in a while. To top it off, I have come to the realization that my lights and skimmer might not be as good as I hoped when I bought them.

Regardless, I will likely have the tank for the summer as it seems very hard to sell stuff at this time of year.
 
One of the reasons why I can't run the QT anymore is because the wife was moaning about it so much last time and to be totally honest I am totally sick of the whole thing. I am starting to believe is their WS in everybody's tank but on that quote I will be corrected. I have been keeping a reef tank for close to four years now and I have never had WS up until recently. I am starting to think about ditching the corals and running just a fish only system if the truth be known,that way I can drop my SG and eradicate it once and for all without the need of a QT.
 
One of the reasons why I can't run the QT anymore is because the wife was moaning about it so much last time and to be totally honest I am totally sick of the whole thing. I am starting to believe is their WS in everybody's tank but on that quote I will be corrected. I have been keeping a reef tank for close to four years now and I have never had WS up until recently. I am starting to think about ditching the corals and running just a fish only system if the truth be known,that way I can drop my SG and eradicate it once and for all without the need of a QT.

I hear you Davy, we are in the process of making a new space to put my QT, but there is also some talk of selling it!

Some tentatively good news, there is no more ich showing at the moment. I am really really really hoping that the spots were just gunk in the water that flew up during rock/glass cleaning that got embedded on the fins. However, I am well aware of the fact that ich naturally drops off and comes back shortly after as the thing goes through it's life cycle. Impatiently waiting to find out, and hoping for the best here.
 
Good luck! I've had that happen to me, I thought the ich came back and it was some other spot on the fins that went away(pecked away probably). I have been fortunate enough to have a cleaner wrasse that has a voracious appetite. Not only does he clean the fish all day long, he eats flake food and anything else not nailed down..lol.I was fortunate enough to find him at a LFS, as for the 3 by mail order previously were not sucessful..They have a high mortality rate..
 
Unfortunately, as suspected, the spots seem to have been ich. I noticed two new white spots on the back of the sailfin's fin. Upon closer inpection I identified 4-5 white "grain of salt" specs on it's body as well. Looks like pretty textbook ich at this point. Bummer.

Still hoping it works itself out and doesn't kill anyone. I will focus on maintaining good water quality and keeping up on water changes to give them the best chance at building immunity.

Once again, I can state that garlic doesn't seem to help.
 
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