Hyposalinity Treatment

[WallysWorld]

Has anyone used this method with Seahorses? I've used with scaled fish with excellent results but I'm not sure about Seahorses?
Experiences greatly appreciated!

Is the magic number for SG 1.014? Or do I go lower?

Thanks,
Walter

 

[rayjay]

What are you hoping to achieve with hypo?
I've not heard of anyone doing it with seahorses, but for parasite relief it's common to do a 12 minute dip in fresh water match for temperature and pH.

 

[WallysWorld]

Rayjay,

I've got a few calls from owners of sick seahorses, they like to donate or trade for coral. So knowing they are sick and wanting to try and save them I am looking for the most cost effective solution and maybe a better solution besides chemicals...

Just wondering if anyone has tried with Seahorses?

Yes I agree freshwater dip works well.

 

[timinnl]

Rayjay,

I've got a few calls from owners of sick seahorses, they like to donate or trade for coral. So knowing they are sick and wanting to try and save them I am looking for the most cost effective solution and maybe a better solution besides chemicals...

Just wondering if anyone has tried with Seahorses?

Yes I agree freshwater dip works well.

I linked you on the org about a recent thread. Hace a read through it and see if it can apply to you or not?

Tim

 

[rayjay]

Most of the seahorses I've had that were sick and showing some sign of a problem have always had a bacterial problem like an erectus I have right now with a hole in it's side.
I don't expect hypo would help that at all.
I'm using bio-med for direct application and Furan II and that usually works.
Many of my losses over the years however were to seahorses exhibiting no signs of problems, even after death. Again, hypo is of no value because I had no way to know ahead of time to treat.

 

[DanU]

If you are trying to raise seahorses, don't take in stays that are in questionable health. You run the risk of cross contamination and losing it all. Basic biosecurity is a must for a breeder.

Dan

 

[WallysWorld]

I linked you on the org about a recent thread. Hace a read through it and see if it can apply to you or not?

Tim

Will do, thanks

Most of the seahorses I've had that were sick and showing some sign of a problem have always had a bacterial problem like an erectus I have right now with a hole in it's side.
I don't expect hypo would help that at all.
I'm using bio-med for direct application and Furan II and that usually works.
Many of my losses over the years however were to seahorses exhibiting no signs of problems, even after death. Again, hypo is of no value because I had no way to know ahead of time to treat.

Are you saying Seahorse's don't get cryptocaryon?
How do you diagnose bacteria?

Thanks,

 

[rayjay]

No, I can't say they don't get it, just that over the years I've been in seahorse keeping and with the large numbers I keep, I've not encountered it.
I don't remember seeing any posts where it was confirmed crypto causing the problem, even though some thought that was the cause.
Bacteria problems externally at least are visible so you know you have to treat.
It could be a spot that develops into a hole, or discolouration on a tail tip that leads to loss of the end of the tail, but if caught and properly treated can be rehabilitated.

 

[DanU]

Seahorses can get Crypto! One case I am familiar with, a distributor brought in a large Asian import in which they had Crypto in the gills. This was diagnosed by a fish vet. Copper was used effectively.

One of the common parasitic issues with syngnathids is Uronema. Uronema can survive a long term hyposalinity treatment.

If you don't want to use chemicals then the best route to is to move them to a clean quarantine tank that is stable, devoid of any stressors and ensure a good diet. If external parasites are suspected a FW dip before placing them in the tank. I don't think you can effectively treat internal parasitic issues without chemicals. If a bacterial infection is suspected, depending upon how far along it has progressed and how aggressive it is, probiotics sometimes helps.

Dan

 

[WallysWorld]

No, I can't say they don't get it, just that over the years I've been in seahorse keeping and with the large numbers I keep, I've not encountered it.
I don't remember seeing any posts where it was confirmed crypto causing the problem, even though some thought that was the cause.
Bacteria problems externally at least are visible so you know you have to treat.
It could be a spot that develops into a hole, or discolouration on a tail tip that leads to loss of the end of the tail, but if caught and properly treated can be rehabilitated.

Good to know, thankfully he's doing much better! Hope that wasn't too soon.
Thanks.

Seahorses can get Crypto! One case I am familiar with, a distributor brought in a large Asian import in which they had Crypto in the gills. This was diagnosed by a fish vet. Copper was used effectively.

One of the common parasitic issues with syngnathids is Uronema. Uronema can survive a long term hyposalinity treatment.

If you don't want to use chemicals then the best route to is to move them to a clean quarantine tank that is stable, devoid of any stressors and ensure a good diet. If external parasites are suspected a FW dip before placing them in the tank. I don't think you can effectively treat internal parasitic issues without chemicals. If a bacterial infection is suspected, depending upon how far along it has progressed and how aggressive it is, probiotics sometimes helps.

Dan

Dan, Sorry missed your other post(sametime as mine).
Your right I have to lock the fish room down! I saw how clean your tanks and a few other aquaculturist (Todd G.) so I am going to follow that as a standard. Getting more 55 gal drums so I can keep the fry in the same tank until ready for market.
BTW, George Grippo gave me some of your "Dan's feed" to try, good stuff! Funny I already had a blend of spurilina and azanxth..(SP?) but wasn't familiar with algagen(SP?) stuff seems to be doing the trick for me, just had my best survival rate yet! I'll have to order some soon, running low.

Thanks Again,
Walter