I can't do this hobby unless I get a house

[scarson61]

Now is the time to buy a house, low interest rates, and homes are going cheap.

 

[Cabin3tGuy]

Non-qualifying ... look for those kind of homes if it is such an issue .. maybe there is a gem out there

 

[aslavatortin]

Your neighbor sucks, or the apartment is waaay crappily constructed, or both. I had my 265 in an apartment (Reserve at Dexter Lake) with the skimmer I sold you and I never had a complaint. I honestly never even thought of the noise traveling somewhere else. There are a bunch of ways to silence things, and the advice about going to the neighbor being nice and asking to hear the noise is great. I bought a house in December 2007 because the apartment complex kicked my doberman out (he never bothered anyone, they just decided to do some breed-specific enforcement). Apartments suck. With the markets the way they are now, you can get an FHA loan if your credit score is close to 600, I think. So you don't even have to really have good credit. Do you have any savings for a downpayment and do you have verifiable and stable employment/income? Were you ever in the service? I'm not in the mortgage industry but I know a bunch of folks who are that can help you out (hopefully). You've got my email address and phone number, just call me or email me. You will NEVER regret getting out of the renter's hell, trust me.

 

[Grendel0501]

Dave , I appreciated the offer for help. I am going to talk to him and see if I can work the noises out with his help. I'll order one of those silencers you linked to , and see where that gets me.
I have a decent understanding of how the overflow works , I learn better from playing and think I learned more in the 2 or 3 days of playing with it , than any of the reading I did about it.

The possibility of leaks is just another reason I should get a house before I get into this.

Aslav , my empolyment is sketchey I work with a paint crew and sometimes we have work , sometimes we don't. Not in the service either , and no clue on my credit I've never checked it. All this means I KNOW I'd have to have a co-signer.

Scarson , that's the way I was thinking , but now I'm guessing to own for under $900 it isn't going to be nice or in a nice part of town. I don't want to live in the bush .

Blindside , I have a 135lbs cheaspek mix and I've never had a complaint about him , luckey too , I don't think any other apartment complexes would take him.


I'm trying to stay positive and I appreciate you guys helping out with info. I get so negative some times I act like the world is ending and theres no way around it.

I'm a big puss when it comes to management , I'm breaking alot of the rules . Not with the aqaurium , but let's just say if mangament comes in here unexpectedly , I would probablly get kicked out and since I don't know where I can go with my large dog and other problems , I am very wary of making waves with the neighbors.

 

[just dave]

You can still have a nice set-up that is more 'n capable while minimizing the potential for leaks ( you can't eliminate it because ,after all, it is a glass box filled with water.) Drew (nightblade) has such a system because of it's location (upstairs) and his landlord (mom) he had to minimize the potential for leaks and it is also quiet.

Like I said, I can help you out to come up with something that'll fit your needs.


As to the siphon box the trick is not knowing how they work but instead what makes them stop.

 

[Grendel0501]

I'm ordering the Silencer now , should be here in acouple of days , then I'll ask him if he can still hear it.

Crap I need a minimum order of $20 to checkout.
What kind of valve do I need to keep the return pipe from becoming a reverse siphon?
Would a ball valve do the trick?

 

[just dave]

Google Stockman silencer and make one. You're talking about a check valve but do not use one to prevent a flood as it will fail one day. Design the system so it does not need one.

 

[Grendel0501]

Thanks Dave , I saw a link for how to make a hofer gurgle buster , if it's like that it shouldn't be too hard.

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The problem is will something I make work?
Oh well back to home depot!!!

 

[just dave]

http://www.rl180reef.com/pages/standpipe/standpipe-ken_stockman.htm

http://lava.lounge111.net/diy_stockman_mod.htm

http://stockmanreef.com/aquasilencer.htm

http://www.randystacye.com/diy_overflow.htm

http://www.3reef.com/forums/filters-etc/stockman-standpipe-39460.html

http://www.talkingreef.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-6143.html

 

[alkamar]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14255894#post14255894 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Grendel0501
.... I'll order one of those silencers you linked to , and see where that gets me.

Now your talkin'. That's one way to shut the neighbor up. Just don't leave prints behind.

I lived in a very small apartment in Buffalo and I do not ever want to live in an apartment again. We got to see the police chase a guy up the stairs before introducing the concrete to his chin. Then there was the neigbor that moved in that was REAL good friends with a girl named Mary Jane.:smokin: Another week we had a hooker working the parking lot. I mean someone has to "keep an eye on the cars." This was in North Buffalo which is supposed to be nicer. :rolleye1:
Depending on the neighbors, Apartments can really suck, but hopefully things will work out for you either way. Although I didn't follow all of Dave Ramsey's advice, I did take in enough to get my credit and debt in check. It just took much longer my way. In a couple of months, I will be rid off all debt except our van and house. You can start working on your credit now. You can pm me if you need any info.

 

[aslavatortin]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14257995#post14257995 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by alkamar
Now your talkin'. That's one way to shut the neighbor up. Just don't leave prints behind.

Awesome:lol:

 

[Del123]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14252054#post14252054 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Grendel0501
Something about the sound of water moving , it must travel through the walls well.

When the guy above me got fed up he filled some kind of container with water and walked to where my tank was , then he shook it up till I turned off the sump pump , killing the overflow noises. I could hear him pretty well.

Just get thm into the hobby, problem gone~

 

[Grendel0501]

That probablly won't happen , would be nice though.

On the aquasilencer website it says
"The new design is not practical for DIY. And bulk purchase of the raw materials allow me to sell these at a reasonable price. In order to get a reasonable price on milling, I have 500 made at a time"

I guess I'll order one instead of trying to make one.

 

[just dave]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14258868#post14258868 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Grendel0501
That probablly won't happen , would be nice though.

On the aquasilencer website it says
"The new design is not practical for DIY. And bulk purchase of the raw materials allow me to sell these at a reasonable price. In order to get a reasonable price on milling, I have 500 made at a time"

I guess I'll order one instead of trying to make one.

I sell 'em and they look nice but the new design doesn't work any better 'n the older design. The mill work may put it beyond the scope of most DIYers but that is just a fancy snail guard.

 

[Mako Shark II]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14254416#post14254416 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by PhilTheEel
Just don't through your money away in rent. Put your money into a house that you will own.

Right on, “Phil called John”!

Just as soon as you can, and it's fiscally prudent, get out of the Rent scenario. The Credit crunch is untenable right now, so you’ll need a nice down stroke and perfect credit. So start saving now!

I could never stand paying rent and I've had a single family home since I was 23. It was 1,100 sq ft. and five years later, I sold it for a $50k profit and almost doubled my money! I paid $58k.

And although the mortgages have always been a Bear financially on a month to month basis, (my present one notwithstanding!), it enables huge income tax incentives and becomes a fiscal engine for you personally.

Now with my son at University of Memphis, we bought a second house and secured a renter to cover >50% of the expenses. Bottom line: they have a 1,300 sq ft Home for the same price as a (1) Dorm Room, and I now have greater Tax breaks for a rental income house.

Advice:
1. Seek professional Financial counsel, even if you think you can't afford it. Get a Plan. You're young! Work smarter; not harder!
2. Drive a Beater; Live in a Castle
3. Make nice with your neighbor and listen to Just Dave.
4. You also might want to look into Isolating the Vibrations with a few sound deadening panels, like 2x4’ acoustic ceiling tiles.

The hardest step in climbing a moutain, is the first one.

 

[Grendel0501]

If the new design still gets the job done , I'll pick one up from Kermit's tommorrow , I like the idea of a premade one , cuts out all the mistakes I would make .

I have 100sqft of sound dampening , the kind used to line car trunks when a large bass system is installed. I guess I could line a plastic sheet with it , and hang the sheet up on the wall behind the tank , would look awful but might do the trick (would also double as a splash guard) . Would probally need it on the ceiling as well , which doesn't sound possible.

 

[just dave]

Just remember:

"The Stockman modification is a permanent solution, but is by no means perfect. Expect a certain amount of fiddling to get it right and be sure you have some spare time after installing it to make sure the modification doesn't restrict flow thus causing the tank to overflow."

 

[Grendel0501]

Well on a liter note.

It's about to snow. Well , icey first , then some snow.

 

[ihavtats29]

lol all of BUffalo is a s hole expecialy in the city limits

 

[Grendel0501]

I'm sad to say this , but for now I am empting the tank and waiting until I can move to get it started.

The reasons to wait just keep stacking up and in my mind I am already defeated.
The cost , the danger , and the noise , mainly the anxiety I get knowing if something wrong happens I have to move and bc of my crappy job getting another place to live may be close to impossible. So for the saftey of a place to live , I am waiting until I get a new place , where this would be safer and easier.

The anxeity about these things has actually been keeping me up lately and since I drained the tank , I'm not happy , but I'm not nervous.


Sorry guys ....... I know , I suck.