I.D. this pair please..

[MotoFish]

I bought them as a mated pair.. At least that is what I was told.
I am relatively new to this and still learning lots. But have a few questions about these clowns..

Here's the pics..

On the female the white bar on her tail seems to be grey if not a shade of black.. She is definitely bigger than the male.

What kind of clowns are these? I was told they were a certain type. I'll tell you what they told me they were in a little bit. I want to see what kind of answers I get first.

 

[Luwe2008]

they look like ocellaris

 

[reppo13]

IMO, those look like perculas. The black is a little thicker on perculas and I've never seen the black border touch another on an occ. Also an occ. would be a little darker shade of orange. Most percs I see are that exact color.

 

[2Addicted]

These are percula for sure! very nice find!

 

[gogators1088]

def percs look just like my perc...beautiful fish!

 

[elegance coral]

Those are text book A. percula. Absolutely no doubt.

 

[jt_milstead]

Yes Percula...

 

[gogators1088]

they look like ocellaris

man i dont want to be mean but if you not 100% sure on something this common dont give advice on what you think it is...

 

[Mavrk]

Very nice. Makes me miss my percs. I have occs right now that I like, but there's something about that perc coloring that I just really like.

 

[oceancube1]

those are what you call true perculas! and nice pair btw..

 

[MotoFish]

Thanks all. I feel a little better now.

I was told they were onyx true percs.. Could this be true? Sorry for maybe sounding a little noobish.. I kinda am.

I picked up the pair for $100..

I have a very good sized frogspawn, but other than that, no where for them to host really. They currently roam the tank. They stick together 24/7 for the most part and was told they were a mated pair.. I don't know if they have actually ever laid eggs though.

My tank is still relatively new. Only a half dozen frags or so and a frogspawn that I split into two.. About 5 or 6 good sized heads on each. They guy that I bought the frogspawn from had a clown hosting in it when I got it.

I am okay with that.. but they have yet to really notice it. They have been in there about 2 weeks with it.

I know it takes time sometimes, but should I offer something more to them?

Also, they get pellets and mysis on a pretty regular basis.. should I offer anything else?

 

[JLopez]

Those are true percs but deffinitely not onyx percs. These are black onyx:
http://www.aquacon.com/images/BlackOnyxClownfish.jpg

Dont worry about them not having an anemone to host in. They can live perfectly happy without one. Also, you should get some rod's or rogger's food to feed your fish. Pellets and mysis are ok sometimes, but just like people, fish need a balanced diet.

 

[Conrad25]

Those are true percs. I own some myself and they are great!

Conrad

 

[gogators1088]

how big are the 2?

 

[MrTuskfish]

There are so many tankbred color morphs like Picassos,(most black onyx are still wild-caught) and so many "in between" color varieties available now that its hard to tell sometimes. But your pair is a textbook pair of Perculas. Clowns are omnivores and need some greens in their diet. Frozen Formula II is scarfed up by most clowns. IMO&IME: you can't have too much variety, offering at least 5 appropriate foods, along with vitamins (Selcon, etc.) on a regular basis is a good habit.

 

[MotoFish]

how big are the 2?

I'd say the female is about 2" and the male about 1.5"...
The male likes to dart around quickly towards the female stopping just shy of colliding with her quite often.. Also seen him trying to "strut his stuff" you could say. He shakes his body quite eradically around her.

 

[MotoFish]

Those are true percs but deffinitely not onyx percs. These are black onyx:
http://www.aquacon.com/images/BlackOnyxClownfish.jpg

Dont worry about them not having an anemone to host in. They can live perfectly happy without one. Also, you should get some rod's or rogger's food to feed your fish. Pellets and mysis are ok sometimes, but just like people, fish need a balanced diet.

I think I read somewhere that the black in the oynx clowns sometimes takes time to come in... Is this true? Is it still possible that these could be oynx and are just young? or definitely just true percs?

 

[bues0022]

There are a few variables working here. 1) age. how old are they? Yes, it is true that some onyx may take several years to completely color up. If they were sold to you as a mated pair that would imply that they have laid eggs. That likely means that they are a minimum of 1.5 years old. If they were this old I would expect to see much more black on them if they really were an onyx.

2) anemone hosting? Has this pair hosted in an anemone? Certain combinations of individual fish and anemones have seen reduction in their colors. If they were old enough to mate but were being hosted by a BTA or LTA, it's possible for them to have lost their black some.

 

[MrTuskfish]

There are a few variables working here. 1) age. how old are they? Yes, it is true that some onyx may take several years to completely color up. If they were sold to you as a mated pair that would imply that they have laid eggs. That likely means that they are a minimum of 1.5 years old. If they were this old I would expect to see much more black on them if they really were an onyx..

Yeah. "Mated" and "Bonded" (or just a M&F, or just 2 fish) are different things; and from some of the stuff I've seen, lots of sellers don't know (or care) about it. At 2'' & 1 1/2"--"mated" is very iffy, IMO.
To the TS: do you happen to know if these were sold as wild caught or tankbred?

 

[elegance coral]

There are allot of factors that can contribute to how black/melanistic clowns will become. Genetics, light, nutrition, health, anemone species, and I'm sure there are others.

Here's a pair of wild perc's, that are very similar to yours, right after I received them.

Here's the same fish less than a year later.