I detest politics...

Hedonist

Hedonist

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and generally do ont want to get involved, however, after a conversation I had with the deputy commisioner of Inland Fisheriers and Wildlife, maybe I will get involved.

The state has a very small unretricted fish list. If one applies by Sept, they review the requests and are supposed to determine if they will add the fish to the list by Jan. However, after hearing from 3 different people saying thyey are understaffed and wil not change the list, I just started wonder... if they do not have the manpower of funding to do this aspect of their job, they never will... I am sure this is not high on their priority, unless we make it so!

As I spoke to the DC, he stated that currently due to the staffing issue, they may issue permits, however,basically if the applicant is hto be in the Penobscot watershed, or any other watershed that is involved in the Atlantic Salmon Restoration project, it will be a no go... If anyone is aware, the PWS is about 1/3 of the state of ME.
and if a permit is issued, one had to ensure that the fish-or any other imported pet- will not harm tne environment. Such as locks, producing the deceased pets for testing (and probably to ensure they are accounted for). When one appliew for a permit, it is automatically denied, tho you can file an appeal. This may be to deter many who will take no for an answer, but delays the issue for serious inquiries. Aslo, if I was to apply for a permit for a fish not currently on the list to put into a customers tank, I would have to apply for another permit ifI was to do the same setup in a differnet location..

It was mentioned that a person has a permit for koi, if he loses one to a disease , the rest have to go.... even though they have been determined to be safe and secure. It was also mentioned in the permitting for the koi, that bascially the only way for the fish to be released is by a crime of passion, is wife knowing the fish mean something to him, would possibly, in their mind probably, release them.... The DC also mentioned the possiblity of the eco-terrorists when we spoke of a facility wanting to bring koi in to study for scientific purposes... so basically, from what I gathered, we as pet owners are to prevent 'eco-terrorist' or anyone else that may hold a grudge against you and trash your tank. The public in general is also considered probably likey of releasing imported fish or pets into the environment.

It was also mentioned that some blueberry growers are at risk as well if they are near the watershed due to the sprays they use. So at least 2 major industries, the pet industry and bludberry growers are limited by the resoration of salmon (and of course protecting our natual resources)

I asked why the big push for salmon restoration, as I suspected a political power is probably the steam behind it, usually money is the root of everything, good and bad........, and he stated it was a symbolic thing, much like the bald eagle restoration. If that is the case, the federal governemnt is spending lots of time and effort, and posing many restrictions on us citizens, all to put fish back into a few rivers for who or what.....? Tourists and fisher people, symbolism? I am not so sure many will benefit from this major effort by our government.

I know I may be sounding a bit out-there, but the state is hesitant to add to the list. It was mentioned that if fish are not imported but already in the states ane bred in the states, it has a better chance of being permitted, if it does not endager the salmon restoration. I am personally more interested in my aquatic pets than salmon.... if salmon are released and they thrive, great, but I personlly prefer not to be considered hindered in what I do becasue the state-and feds- fear someone else, if not myself, is likely to release unwanted sps into our state.

Enough for now, but I urge you to inquire, get involved.
Denise
 
Oh yeah, I sould mention, if you currently have a pet no on the list, you need to take it somewhere where it is legal, out of state, apply for a permit and then, if issued one, you can get the pet again. BUT, if you are asking for a fish in the salmon restoration project area, forget it, it won't happen under current rules.

And just so you are aware, the current list is species specific, .. if it is not on the list it is illegal... .....

Denise
 
Hey Denise!

Not to be argumentative or a naysayer... but I support the salmon restoration project.

The salmon are part of a food chain that is beautiful in its natural state. Many animals are affected when they disappear which are also integral parts of the chain... It's sad, imo, that we have nearly eradicated it. We can't fix much of the damage we have done as a species to the environment, but I do think that if we can, we should.

Obviously, money is always an issue. However, we have already spent money to erect facilities for this purpose- it would also seem a mess to suddenly change our minds and waste it.

We have many fish such as mandarins (and corals- gonipora being one) already that we import that are doomed to die in home aquaria, and are slowly eradicating these due to high demand in North America and Asia and habitat destruction/finite resources at collection points. Weirdly, many LFS continue to import these, although we know their success rate with the general public. Most liekly this is because they sell well, and many aquarists will try a mandarin more than once in hopes that they will get a rare one that tries mysis out of desperation, even though this is 1 in a 1000 that die.

Perhaps the real answer lies in finding ways to keep (get to survive) what we can already import, before adding to the list? California's struggle with caleurpa seems to bode ill for what we already have on the list, for sure.

Laurie
"The Non-Ecoterrorist" :lol:
 
Denise, Could you post 'the list' I'd like to know just what species are considered 'legal' in the state of Maine. The general public is, for the most part unaware that ANY species of fish is illegal to keep in Maine. I see ads for Jack Demseys in Uncle Henry's from time to time and know THESE are illegal to keep in Maine. At least one LFS I know of had to destroy his display of these magnificent animals to comply with the law. And just last week I saw on the news that a Chinese restaurant owner in Portland area had his Koi seized, even though the Chinese view these beautiful fish as good luck and I would hazard a guess would no more think of releasing them to the wild than I would my pet Shih tzu!! What is the next step? I value the environment and would NEVER knowingly do ANYTHING to harm it such as releasing non native wildlife, but......... I ALSO value my personal freedom that carries with it personal responsibility. If our freedoms continue to be eroded by well meaning and understaffed and underfunded State officials soon we'll be forced to keep trout and salmon as our only fish pets! Even white perch are considered non native to certain lakes in Maine! Not only that, but Maine is the ONLY New England state to be so restrictive, one only needs to go to NH or MA to obtain (legally) many of the restricted fish including Jack Demseys and Koi. Enough said, that's my opinion, you're welcome to yours.
See you all tomorrow at Dawn's. Sue
 
From Maine Unrestricted Fish List

REMEMBER, if it is NOT on the list, it's illegal to have in Maine!

Scientific Name (genus & species subspecies))
Common Names Used in Trade and Sale of Fishes

Abramites hypselonotus hypselonotus
High-Backed Headstander

Acanthodoras spinosissimus
Cat, Talking Catfish Spiny Catfish

Acantopsis dialuzona
Long-Nosed Loach Horse-Face Loach

Acestrorhynchus falcatus
Barracuda, Freshwater; Spotted Cachorro

Acestrorhynchus falcirostris
Barracuda, Amazon Cachorro ; Dog Characin

Aequidens pulcher
Cichlid, Blue Spot Cichlid Blue Acara

Aequidens rivulatus
Cichlid, Green Terror Esmeralda Cichlid

Agamyxis pecthifrons
Cat, White-Spot Doradid Talking Catfish Spotted Doras

Altolamprologus compressiceps
Cichlid, Compressiceps Compressed Cichlid

Amblydoras hancockii
Cat, Hancock's Doradid Talking Catfish Striped Doras Flying Pan Catfish Hancock's Amblydoras

Amphilophus labiatus
Cichlid, Red Devil Thicklips Cichlid

Amphilophus labiatus
Red Devil Thicklips Cichlid

Anablep anableps
Four-Eyes Striped Four-Eyed Fish

Ancistrus hoplogenys
Snowflake Bristlenose

Ancistrus lineolataus
Big-spot Bristlenose

Ancistrus temminckii; A. dolichopterus
Temminck's Bristlenose, Bristlenose Catfish

Anostomus anostomus amostomus
Striped Anostomus Striped Headstander

Anostomus garmani
Gray-Lined Anostomus

Anostomus gracilis
Anostomus, four-spot Four-Spotted Headstander

Anostomus spiloclistron
False Three-Spotted Anostomus

Anostomus taeniatus
Lisa Anostomus, Lisa

Anostomus ternetzi
Ternetz's Anostomus Red-Mouth Headstander

Anostomus trimaculatus
Odd-Lip Anostomus

Anostomus trimaculatus
Three-Spot Anostomus

Anostomus varius
Checkerboard Anostomus

Apistogramma agassizii
Agissiz Dwarf Cichlid

Apistogramma bitaeniata
Banded Dwarf Cichlid

Apistogramma borellii
Borelli’s Dwarf Cichlid, Yellow Dwarf Cichlid, Umbrella Dwarf Cichlid

Apistogramma cacatuoides
Cockatoo Dwarf Cichlid, Big Mouth Apistogramma, Crested Dwarf Cichlid

Apistogramma pertensis
Net Dwarf Cichlid, Amazon Dwarf Cichlid, Pertensis Dwarf Cichlid

Apistogramma trifasciata trifasciata
Three-Stripe Dwarf Cichlid, Blue Apistogramma, Drifasciata Dwarf Cichlid

Aplocheilus panchax panchax
Blue Panchax Panchax Panchax Panchax

Apteronotus albifrons
Black Ghose Knife Fish Ghost Knifefish Black Ghost

Apteronotus leptrohynchus
Long-Nosed Black Ghost Knife Fish Brown Ghost

Archocentrus nigrofasciatus
Zebra Cichlid Convict Cichlid

Arius seemani
Arius Catfish West American Shark Cat Jordon's Catfish Shark Catfish

Asiphonichthys condei
Tetra, Glass Glass Headstander Small-scaled Glass-characin

Astatotilapia bloyeti
Bloyet's Mouthbrooder

Astronotus ocellatus
Oscar Red Oscar Peacock Cichlid Velvet Cichlid . Includes: Big-Spot Oscar, Marble Oscar, Plane-Colour Oscar, Blackfin Oscar, Red-Pearl Oscar.

Astronotus ocellatus albino
Albino Oscar

Astyanax fasciatus mexicanus
Blind Cave Tetra

Badis badis.badis
Badis Blue Dwarf Dwarf Perch Chameleonfish Dwarf Chameleon Fish

Bagrichthys hypselpterus
Cat, Black Lancer Catfish

Balantiocheilus melanopterus
Tricolor Shark Bala Shark Silver Shark

Barbichthys laevis
Sucker Barb Siam Highfin Shark Sucker Barb

Barbus arulius
Arulius Barb Longfin Barb Filament Barb

Barbus bimaculatus
Two-Spotted Barb Red-Striped Barb

Barbus conchonius
Rosy Barb Red Barb

Barbus everetti
Clown Barb Everett's Barb

Barbus lateristriga
T-Barb Spanner Barb

Barbus nigrofasciatus
Black-Ruby Barb Ruby Barb Purple-Headed Barb

Barbus oligolepis
Checkered Barb Checkerboard Barb Island Barb Iridescent Barb Chequer Barb

Barbus sachsi
Golden Barb Sachs' Barb Gol-Finned Barb

Barbus schwanefeldi
Tinfoil Barb Schwanenfeld's Barb

Barbus semifasciolatus
Green Barb Thin-Banded Barb Chineses Barb Half-Striped Bab Half-Banded Barb Gold Bard

Barbus tetrazona.tetrazona
Tiger Barb Sumatran Barb

Barbus titteya
Cherry Barb

Bedotia geayi
Madagascan Rainbowfish

Belonesox belizanus belizanus
Pike Topminnow; Piketop Minnow; Pike Killifish; Pike Livebearer

Betta anabatoides
Pearly Betta,

Betta bellica
Slender Betta,

Betta picta
Painted Betta

Betta splendens
Betta, Chinese fighting fish

Botia dario
Bengal Loach; Queen Loach

Botia lecontei
Le Conti's Loach Red-Finned Loach Red-Tailed Blue Shark Gold Fin Loach

Botia lohachata
Pakistani Loach; Pakistani Shark

Botia macracanthus
Clown Loach Tiger Botia

Botia modesta
Orange-Finned Loach

Botia morleti
Hora's Loach Cream Botia; Skunk Loach

Botia striata
Zebra Loach Striped Botia

Boulengerella maculata
Spotted Pike Characin

Brachydanio albolineatus
Pearl Danio Gold Danio Spotted Danio

Brachydanio frankei
Leopard Danio

Brachydanio rerio
Zebra Danio Zebra

Brachygobius doriae
Golden-Banded Goby Doria's Bumblebee Goby Doria's Bumblebeefish

Brachygobius doriae
Golden-Banded Goby Doria's Bumblebee Goby Doria's Bumblebeefish

Brochis splendens
Common Brochis Green Brochis Emerald Catfish Sailfin Corydoras Short-Bodied Catfish

Callichthys callichthys callichthys
Slender Armored Catfish Bubble-Nest-Building Catfish Armored Catfish Callichthys Catfish

Carassius auratus auratus
Goldfish

Carnegiella strigata strigata
Marble Hatchetfish

Chaca bankanensis
Frogmouth Catfish Chocolate Frogmouth Catfish

Chalceus macrolepidotus
Chalceus, Yellow-Finned Chalceus Pink-Tailed Characin Pink-Tailed Chalceus

Chanda ranga
Indian Glassfish Glassfish Glass Perch

Charax gibbosus
Glass Headstander Humpbacked Headstander Glass Characin

Chilodus punctatus
Spotted Headstander, Pearl Headstander, Spotted Headstander

Cichla ocellaris
Pike Cichlid Peacock Bass Peacock Cichlid Eyespot Cichlid Lukanani

Cichlasoma cyanoguttatum
Rio Grande Perch Texas Cichlid Pearl Cichlid

Cichlasoma portalegrensis
Port Cichlid Black Acara Port Acara Brown Acara Golden Cichlid

Cleithracara maronii
Cichlid, Keyhole Cichlid

Colisa fasciata
Banded Gourami Little Giant Gourami Giant Gourami Striped Gourami Banded Gourami Indian Gourami Rainbow Gourami

Colisa labiosa
Gourami, Thick Lipped Gourami

Colisa lalia
Gourami, Dwarf Gourami Sunset Gourami

Colisa sota
Gourami, Honey Gourami Honeycomb Gourami Honey Dwarf Gourami

Corydoras aeneus
Bronze Catfish Schultz's Catfish Aeneus Catfish

Corydoras arcuatus
Corydora, Skunk Cat Arched Corydoras Skunk Cory Tabatinga Catfish

Corydoras elegans
Corydoras, Elegant Cory

Corydoras melanistius melanistius
Black-Spotted Corydoras Black Sail Cory

Corydoras metae
Corydoras, Bandit Cory, Masked Corydoras

Corydoras nattereri
Corydoras, Blue Cory Natterer's Catfish Blue Catfish

Corydoras panda
Corydoras, Panda Cory

Corydoras pygmaeus
Cat, Pygmy Corydoras

Corydoras reticulatus
Corydoras, Network Catfish Reticulated Corydoras

Corydoras robineae
Flagtail Corycat Robina's Cory Mrs Schwartz's Catfish Flagtail Corydoras

Corydoras schwartzi
Schwartz's Cory

Corydoras trilineatus
Catfish, Leopard Corydoras False Julii Catfish Three-Line Cory

Corydorus paleatus
Cat, Peppered Corydoras Mottled Catfish

Crenicichla saxatilis
Saxa Crenicichla Rocky Pike Cichlid White-Spotted Pike Cichlid Ring-Tailed Pike Cichlid Spangled Pike Cichlid

Crossocheilus siamensis
Fox, Siamese Flying Fox (fish)

Ctenopoma ansorgii
Ornate Ctenopoma Orange Bushfish

Ctenopoma damasi
Pearlscale Ctenopoma Pearl Bushfish

Ctenopoma kingsleyae
Kingsley's Ctenopoma Tail-Spot Climbing Perch Tailspot Bushfish

Ctenopoma nanum
Dwarf Ctenopoma Gaboon Dwarf Bushfish

Ctenopoma oxyrhynchum
Sharp-Nosed Combing Perch Marbled Climbing Perch Sharp-Nosed Ctenopoma Mottled Ctenopoma

Cyclocheilichthys apogon
Barb, Skin-head

Cyphotilapia frontosa
Cichlid, Frontosa Cichlid

Cyrtocara moorii
Cichlid, Blue Lumphead Blue Dolphin Cichlid

Danio aequipinnatus
Danio, Giant Danio

Datniodes microlepis
Siamese Tiger Fish

Datniodes quadrifasciatus
Datnoid, Many-Barred Tiger Fish Siamese Tiger Four-Barred Tiger Fish

Dermogenys pusillus pusillus
Halfbeak Wrestling Half Malayan Halfbeak

Dianema longibarbis
Cat, Porthole Catfish

Dianema urostriata
Cat, Flag-Tailed Catfish Striped-Tailed Catfish

Dimidiochromis compressiceps
Malawi Eye-Biter

Distichodus notospilus
Red-Finned Distichodus

Distichodus sexfasciatus
Short-Nosed Clown Tetra Six-Barred Distichodus

Dysichthys coracoideus coracoideus
Two-Colored Banjo Catfish Banjo Catfish

Eigenmannia virescens
Green Knife Fish

Electrophorus electricus
Electric Eel

Epalzeorhynchus bicolor
Red-Tailed Labeo Red Finned Black Shark

Epalzeorhynchus frenatus
Ruby Shark Rainbow Shark Red-Finned Shark

Epalzeorhynchus kallopterus
Cat, Flying Fox

Epalzeorhynchus kallopterus
Shark, Flying Fox

Erpetoichthys calabaricus
Snakefish Ropefish Reedfish

Etroplus maculatus
Chromide Orange Chromide

Eutropiellus debauwi
Three-Striped Glass Catfish African Glass Catfish Congo Glass Catfish

Exodon paradoxus
Bucktoothed Tetra

Gasteropelecus sternicla
Common Hatchetfish Black-Lined Silver Hatchetfish Silver Hatchetfish

Geophagus braziliensis
Brazil Geophagus Pearl Cichlid Brasilian High-Hat

Glyptoperichthys gibbiceps
Spotted Sailfin Sucker Catfish

Gnathonemus petersii
Elephant-Nose Peter's Elephantnose Long Nosed Elephant Fish

Gnathonemus tamandua
Blunt-jaw elephantnose

Gymnarchus niloticus
Aba Aba

Gymnocorymbus ternetzi
Black Tetra Black Widow Longfinned Black Tetra

Gymnogeophagus balzanii
Mouthbrooder, Paraguay Balzani Cichlid Paraguay Eartheater

Gyrinocheilus aymonieri
Sucking Loach Chinese Algae Eater Indian Algae Eater Siamese Algae Eater

Hampala macrolepidota
Hampala Silver and Red Barb Sidebar Barb

Haplochromis burtoni
Burton's Hap; Burton's Mouth-Brooder Burton's Nigerian Mouthbreeder

Hasemania nana
Silver-Tipped Tetra Hearing's Silver-Tipped Tetra

Helostoma temminckii
Kissing Gourami Green Kissing Gourami Pink Kissing Gourami

Hemichromis bimaculatus
Jewel Cichlid Jewelfish Red Cichlid

Hemichromis lifalili
Lifalili Cichlid Blood-Red Jewel Cichlid

Hemigrammus caudovittatus
Buenos Aires Tetra

Hemigrammus erythrozonus
Glowlight Tetra

Hemigrammus ocellifer
Head and Tail Light Beacon Fish

Hemigrammus pulcher pulcher
Pretty Tetra Black Wedge Tetra Garnet Tetra

Hemigrammus rhodostomus
Rummy Nose Red-Nosed Tetra

Hemigrammus rodwayi
Golden Tetra Roadway's Tetra

Hemiodopsis semitaeniatus
Black and White Tailed Half-Striped Characin Hemiodus Half-Lined Hemiodus

Herichthys bartoni
Barton's Cichlid

Herichthys carpintis
Pearlscale Cichlid

Herichthys maculicauda
Black Belt Cichlid

Herichthys managuensis
Manaquense Cichlid

Heros severus
Severum Cichlid Eye Spot Cichlid Banded Cichlid Convict Fish

Herotilapia multispinosa
Rainbow Cichlid

Hoplias malabaricus
Common Trahita Tiger Tetra

Hoplosternum thoracatum thoracatum
Port Hoplo Bubblenest Catfish Hoplo Cat Atipa

Hyphessbrycon flammeus
Flame Tetra Red Tetra from Rio Red Tetra Tetra Von Rio

Hyphessobrycon erythrostigma
Bleeding Heart Tetra Tetra Perez

Hyphessobrycon herbertaxelrodi
Black Tetra Black Neon Tetra

Hyphessobrycon loretoensis
Loreto Tetra

Hyphessobrycon pulchripinnis
Lemon Tetra

Hyphessobrycon roseus
Golden Phantom Tetra

Hyphessobrycon serpae
Serpa Tetra Blood Characin Jewel Tetra Callistus Tetra Tetra Serpae

Hypopygus lepturus
Knifefish, Slender-tailed Knife Fish

Hypostomus micropunctatus
Dotted Hypostomus

Hypostomus plecostomus Florida grown?
Plecostomus, Pleco Plecostomus Cafish Sucker Catfish

Hypselecara coryphaenoides
Chocolate Cichlid

Iodotropheus sprengerae
Rusty Cichlid Melanochromis Brevis

Jordanella floridae
American Flagfish, Flagfish

Kryptopterus bicirrhis
Glass Catfish Ghost Catfish Indian Ghost

Labeo chrysophekadion
Black Shark

Labeo erythrurus
Red-Fin Shark Rainbow Shark

Labeo variegatus
Variegated Shark Harlequin Shark Blotchy Shark

Labeotropheus fuelleborni
Fulleborn's Cichlid

Labeotropheus trewavasae
Trewavas' Cichlid Red-Top Cichlid

Labidochromis exasperatus
Orange-Lined Cichlid

Laetacara curviceps
Dwarf Flag Cichlid Flag Cichlid Flag Acara Flag Laetacara Thayer's Cichlid Blunthead

Lepidocephalus jonklaasi
Jonklaas's Loach

Lepidosiren paradoxa
South American Lungfish

Leporinus fasciatus fasciatus
Black-Banded Leporinus Banded Leporinus Striped Leporinus

Leporinus octofasciatus
Eight-Banded Leporinus

Leporinus pellegrini
Belted Leporinus

Leptobarbus hoevenii
Red-Finned Cigar Shark River Barb Pink-Tailed Barb

Limnochromis auritus
Auritus

Liosomadoras oncinus
Cat, Jaguar Catfish

Lobochilotes labiatus
Zebra Cichlid

Luciosoma sentigerum
Long-Finned Apollo Shark

Macrognathus circumcinctus
Half-Banded Spiny Eel

Macrognathus saimensis
Spot-Finned Spiny Eel

Macropodus opercularis
Gourami, Paradise Fish

Malapterurus electricus
Electric Catfish

Mastacembelus armatus armatus
White Spotted Spiny Eel Spiny Eel Tire Track Eel

Mastacembelus erythrotaenia
Fire Eel

Megalamphodus megalopterus
Black Phantom Tetra

Melanochromis chipokae
Chipokae Mbuna

Melanochromis johannii
Johanni Mbuna

Melanochromis parallelus
Parallel-Striped Mbuna

Melanotaenia boesemani
Boeseman's Rainbowfish

Melanotaenia maylandi
Maryland's Rainbowfish

Melanotaenia splendida
Splendid Rainbowfish Cape York Rainbowfish Eastern Rainbowfish Pink-Tailed Australian Rainbow

Melanotaenia splendida inornaata
Checkered Rainbow Fish

Mesonauto festivus
Festive Cichlid Flag Cichlid

Metynnis hypsauchen hypsauchen
Metynnis, Plain Metynnis

Microgeophagus ramirezi
Ram Butterfly Dwarf Cichlid Ramirez' Dwarf Cichlid Ramirezi Butterfly Cichlid

Microphis brachyurus brachyurus
Red-Line Pipefish,

Moenkausia pittieri
Diamond Tetra Pitter's Tetra

Moenkhausia sanctaefilomenae
Yellow-Banded Moenkhausia Red-Eye Tetra Red-Eyed Tetra

Monocirrhus polyacanthus
South American Leaf Fish Barbeled Leaf Fish Leaffish

Monodactylus argenteus
Mono, Fingerfish Moon Fish Mono Malayan Angel Natal Moony Silver Batfish Singapore Angel

Mormyrops engystoma
Mormyrid, Torpedo Mormyrid

Mylossoma aureum
Golden Mylossoma Silver Dollar

Mylossoma duriventre
Silver Mylossoma Hard-Bellied Silver Dollar Hard-Bellied Characin

Mystus micracanthus
Two-Spot Catfish Bar-Tail Mystus Two-Spot Pink Bagrid

Nandopsis salvini
Cichlid, Salvin's Cichlid

Nannobrycon eques
Brown-tailed Pencilfish, Three-Striped Pencilfish Tube-Mouthed Pencilfish Hochey Stick Pencilfish Black-Tailed Pencil Fish Diptail Pencilfish Tube-Mouthed Pencilfish Pencilfish

Nannobrycon unifasciatus
One-Lined Pencilfish Red-Tailed Pencil Fish

Nannostomus trifasciatus duplicate?
Three-Lined Pencilfish Three-Banded Pencilfish

Nematobrycon palermi
Emperor Tetra Black Emperor Tetra

Nimbochromis livingstonii
Cichlid, Livinstoni

Nimbochromis polystigma
Polystigma

Nimbochromis venustus
Benustus Hap Benustus Hap Venustus

No specific species listed.
Metynnis, Red-eyed

Osteoglossum bicirrhosum
Arowana, Silver Arowana Aruana Arawana

Osteoglossum ferreirai
Black Arowana

Otocinclus affinis
Dwarf Otocinclus Golden Otocinclus Midget Sucker Catfish Sucking Catfish Golden Dwarf Sucker Catfish

Panaque nigrolineatus
Royal Panaque Pin-Striped Plec Panaque Gold Nugget Plec

Panaque suttoni
Blue-eyed panaque Blue-eyed Plecostomus

Pangasius sutchi
Siamese Shark Asian Shark Catfish Irridescent Shark Catfish

Pangasius sutchi
Siamese Shark Asian Shark Catfish Irridescent Shark Catfish

Pangio javanicus
Javanese Loach

Pangio kuhlii kuhlii
Kuhli Loach Coolie Loach Leopard Eel Prickly Eye Striped Loach

Pangio kuhlii myersi
Coolie Loach Slimy Myersi Kuhli Loach Myer's Loach Slimy Loach

Pantodon buchhoizi
Butterfly, African Butterfly Fish

Paracheirodon axelrodi
Cardinal Tetra

Paracheirodon innesi
Neon Tetra, Neontetra

Paraila occidentalis
Cat, West African Glass Catfish

Peckoltia pulcher
Brazil Butterfly Pretty Peckoltia Striped Plec

Peckoltia vittata
Banded Peckoltia Clown Pleco Striped Sucker

Pelvicachromis pulcher
Kribensis Purple Cichlid Dwarf Rainbow Cichlid Common Krib

Phenacogrammus interruptus
Congo Tetra Feathertail Tetra Spike Tail Tetra

Phractocephalus hemioliopterus
Redtail Catfish

Phractura ansorgi
Cat, African Whiptailed Catfish

Pimelodella gracilis
Slender Pimelodella

Pimelodus albofaciatus
White-Striped Pimelodus Banded Pimelodus

Pimelodus blochii
Cat, Dusky Dusky Pimelodus

Pimelodus pictus
Polka-Dot Catfish Angelicus Pimelodus Spotted Pimelodella

Pimelodus pictus
Polka-Dot Catfish Angelicus Pimelodus Spotted Pimelodella

Placidochromis electra
Deep-Water Haplo

Platydoras armatus
Striped Raphael Catfish Humbug Catfish

Platydoras costatus
False Chocolate Doradid

Poecilia latipinna
Sailfin Molly Green Sailfin Molly

Poecilia reticulata
Guppy Millionsfish

Poecilia sphenops
Black Molly Pointed-Mouth Molly Short-Finned Molly Mexico Molly Shortfin Molly Yellow Sphenops Molly Molly Sphenops Molly Sphenops Mexican Molly

Poecilia velifera
Mexican Sailfin Molly Green-Sailfin Molly Yucatan Molly Sail-Fin Molly

Pollimyrus nigripinnis
Dusky Whale (fish)

Polypterus delhezi
Armored Bichir Banded Sailfin

Potamotrygon reticulatus
Reticulated Freshwater Stingray

Pristella maxillaris
X-ray Fish Pristella Water Goldfinch Albino Pristella

Pseudocrenilabrus multicolor multicolor
Dwarf Egyptian Mouth-Brooder Dwarf Mouthbrooder Egyptian Mouthbrooder Small Mouth-Brooder Dwarf Eqyptian Mouthbreeder

Pseudosphromenus day
Gourami, Day's Paradise fish

Pseudotropheus aurora
Aurora Cichlid Pseudotropheus Lucerna

Pseudotropheus elongatus
Slender Cichlid Elongated Nyasa Cichlid Slender Pseudotropheus

Pseudotropheus lombardoi
Kennyi Mbuna Pseudotropheus Kenyi Pseudotropheus Lilancinius

Pseudotropheus socolofi
Eduard's Mbuna Pseudotropheus Pindani

Pseudotropheus zebra
Zebra Cichlid Nyassa Blue Cichlid Red-Top Zebra Zebra Mazinzi Nyasa Blue Cichlid

Pterophyllum altum
Deep Angelfish Altum Angel Long-Finned Angelfish

Pterophyllum dumerili
Long-Nose Angelfish

Pterophyllum scalare
Angelfish Lesser Angelfish Scalare

Pterygoplichthys multriadiatus
Gold Pleco Many-Rayed Sailfin Sucker Catfish

Rasbora borapetensis
Redtailed Rasbora False Magnificent Rasbora Brilliant Rasbora

Rasbora einthovenii
Long-Band Rasbora Brilliant Rasbora Einthoven's Rosbora Blackstripe Rasbora

Rasbora elegans elegans
Two-Spot Rasbora Elgant Rasbora Yellow Rasbora

Rasbora heteromorpha
Harlequin Fish Harlequin Rasbora Red Rasbora Harlequin Rasbora

Rasbora kalochroma
Clown Rasbora Iridescent Rasbora Big-Spot Rasbora

Rasbora maculata
Spotted Rasbora Pigmy Rasbora Dwarf Rasbora

Rasbora pauciperforata
Red-Striped Rasbora Redline Rasbora Glowlight Rasbora

Rasbora trilineata
Three-line Rasbora Scissortailed Rasbora

Rhamphchromis macrophthalmus
Malawi Torpedo

Rhampichthys rostratus
Eel Knife Fish

Rineloricaria fallax
Cat, Regan's bishop there is no common name associated with this scientific name.

Satanoperca jurupari
Earth-Eater, Demon Fish

Scatophagus argus argus
Scat Argus Fish Spotted Scat Spotted Butterfish

Sciaenochromis ahli
Electric Blue Haplo Haplochromis Big Eye

Semaprochilodus taeniurus
Plain-Body Prochilodus Silver Prochilodus

Semaprochilodus theraponura
Flag-Tailed Prochilodus

Sorubim lima
Shovel-Nose Catfish

Sphaerichthys osphromenoides
Chocolate Gourami,

Steatocranus casuarius
African Blockhead Lionhead Cichlid Bumphead Cichlid Buffalohead Cichlid Flathead Cichlid

Stigmatogobius sadanundio
Knight Goby

Sturisoma panamense
Panama Sturisoma Royal Whiptail Royal Farowella

Symphysodon aequifasciatus aequifasciatus
Discus Discus Fish Green Discus Blue Discus

Symphysodon discus discus
Discus fish Discus Heckel Discus Red Discus Pompadour

Synbranchus marmoratus
American Marbled Eel

Synodontis alberti
Congo High-Fin Synodontis Albert's Catfish

Synodontis angelicus
Angel Catfish Polka-Dot Synodontis Polda-Dot African Catfish

Synodontis brichardi
Brichard's Synodontis

Synodontis eupterus
Feather-Fin Synodontis

Synodontis multipunctatus
Cuckoo Syndontis Multi-Spotted Synodontis

Synodontis nigriventris
Black Spotted Upside Down Catfish

Synodontis notatus
Spotted Synodontis One-Spot Catfish

Synodontis polli
Poll's Upside-Down Catfish Leopard Catfish

Synodontis schoutedeni
Vermiculated Synodontis

Tetragonopterus argenteus
Blue-line silver tetra; Big-Eyed Characin; Silver Tetra

Tetraodon palembangensis
Puffer Fish Figure-Eight Puffer Striped Puffer

Thayeria boehlkei
Penguin Fish Boehlke's Penguin Bohlke's Penguin

Thoracocharax stellatus
Silver Hatchetfish,

Thorichthys meeki
Firemouth Cichlid

Toxotes chatareus
Seven-Spot Archer Fish Common Archer Fish

Toxotes jaculatrix
Archer Fish

Trichogaster leeri
Gourami, Pearl Pearl Gourami Lace Gourami Leeri Mosaic Gourami

Trichogaster microlepis
Moonlight Gourami Moonbeam Gourami

Trichogaster pectoralis
Snake-Skinned Gourami

Trichogaster trichopterus trichopterus
Three-Spot Blue Gourami Blue Gourami Spotted Gourami

Trichopsis pumila
Dwarf Croaking Gourami Pygmy Gourami Sparking Gourami

Triportheus albus
Yellow-Finned Hatchetfish Yellowfin Giant Hatchet Pretty Chalcinus

Xenomystus nigri
African Knife fish

Xiphophorus helleri
Swordtail Green Swordtail Helleri

Xiphophorus maculatus
Platy Southern Platy Moon Platy

Xiphophorus variatus
Variegated Platy Variatus Platy Variable Platy Sunset Platy Platy Variatus
 
Personally, I think it would be infinitely better if the State had the stores educate people about the dangers of releasing pets & plants into the environment. They already mandate how we label the tanks, why not make us give out a handout explaining this to people? I know it doesn't address the raging ecoterrorist issue or the ****ed-off ex who dumps the fish in the pond, but those are soooo rare. I can't believe no one in the state is supposed to keep a Jack Dempsey because there's a chance that ONE of those fishkeepers might upset someone enough to have them dump the fish in a pond or river.

I posted the list of fish on here, but it's definitely worth clicking on that link and seeing the OTHER animals that are outlaws now.
 
If you want something just get it and do not tell anyone about it. Everything that is not legal is available. Just don't get caught. Peace out!
 
about 3 years ago the state made me freze my 5 blue dempsey's and send them to agusta or fine me $10,000 each and they would take them anyway. I ended up bringing them there then they had me escorted out of the building. the state inspector that came to my house even said how much he loved my breading tanks of black calvus, red humphead cichlids,and the strawberry peacock's none of which are legal they didnt know what they were they just knew the jack's. the restrictions on fresh water fish is why I got into salt water now I hear they want to make all snails illegal and thats how it started with feshwater who gets a vote on any of this or is this just one of thoes communist things where no one gets a vote on
 
Yeame is right in saying that the inspectors don't even know what fish even look like that are not on the list. That is why if you have a pet store you must be able to give them the latin name so they can check,

I think that was a problem a few years ago with the parrot cichlids. Something to do with being a hybrid and not having a true latin name.

Smoe stores even give false latin names and inspectors just take it.

My major problem with the list is that I feel it should be a "Illegal list" There are so many breeds of reptiles and fish the state doesn't know about, they would never prose problems, or even survive a winter.

Come on fat cats in Augusta add a few more people to your crew, we need someone working up there!!!!
 
I am not against adding salmon, but I do not want to told that I cannot have a fish because it may harm the restoration by somebody sabotaging my tank. I did not get to vote on fish for my tank or fish in the river....

As far as I know, there are no restriction on saltwater fish, I am talking about freshwater, and other pets like frogs, snakes etc....There are breeders in the states who have sucessfully bred such fish as killi, and the parrot fish etc... the parrot is a hybrid of two fish that are on the list, one would think it would not be a great issue to allow that fish on the list without getting a permit.

It does not make sense to me why there is only one killie sps on the list... I am fairly certain the varietis in the genus of fish are not that vastly different that one could not just say all sps of this fish are allowed.

I am sure there are those who do, either purposely or inadvertantly end up with a fish not on the list. My beef is that as a service provider, fish such as parrots are great for the elderly in nursing homes etc. They are not shy, are colorful and greet any who come near them. I do not need anyone who has a hair across their *** to call and tell the state that my clients has a tank with illegal fish. Thank you very much. That is basically what happend to the guy with the koi... By the way did you know the fine for an illegal fish is greater than if a hunter shots a person? Well it is, I guess we are greater criminals if we keep fish the state does not chose to let us have.

It just seems so out of balance to me....
 
Cats are not on the list. They definitely are an "unreasonable risk to indigenous species" (birds). Rats and mice are legal so you should replace your cat with a rat.
I also support salmon restoration. The department of Inland fisheries
should be fined for releasing lake trout in Sebago Lake. Different type of salmon but typical of their mismanagement. They just do what the Sportsmans Alliance tells them to any ways. The people they need to
deal with are introducing bass,white perch and pike to lakes.
 
I used to work at a pet store and I know how frustrating it is to get fish fin you want. I have talked to shop owners around the state. Turns out there used to be a group of shop owners who were part of this decission making process. From what I am told the group fizzeled out. Sounds like its time get get a group going and work with the state.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7886626#post7886626 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ME2003
This is another example of their mismanagement and shows how much the Sportsmans Alliance tells them what to do.
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I would like you to share the evidence you have that Sportsman's Alliance runs DIF&W please.
 
Wow Me2003... that really sucks...

You know, I look at the differences in the world for the elderly now from when they were born, and it's terrible that such natural beauty is disappearing. I hope when I get way old I can still sit on a porch and watch a clean lake sunset.

:(
Laurie
 
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It is not only at the state level, from what I understand , the Atlantic Salmon Commision is at the federal level

And it looks funky to me that thye are appealing for every angler to apply for a liscenes even if they do not want to fish as it helps promote their cause...... I am NOT against re-establishing salmon.... but not at the expense of my personal freedom getting eaten away....

This following is taken from the intro to the commission
"The Maine legislature recognized the national significance of this fish and in doing so reestablished the Commission in 1998. The Commission’s mission is to protect, preserve, enhance, restore and manage Atlantic salmon and their habitat; to secure a sustainable recreational fishery in the State; and to conduct and coordinate all projects involving research, planning, management, restoration or propagation of the Atlantic salmon."

If they are to conduct and co-ordinate all projects involving management etc, maybe they should fund the monies to research the fish that the DIFW says they cannot fund. If anyone needs to ensure they are not a threat, maybe it should be on them.

Also, scientific names have changed in the past, and probably will in the future... how does that affect us? A name oin the list now that gets changed is not on the list anymore.... gotta wonder about that....

What caused the Atlantic salmon to disappear to begin with? Indutrail pollution and poor fish management inprevious years, not fish hobbiests or eco-terrorists,I would guess.

Why is it so different that the other sps of salmon, what makes it so special? I Maine the only state that recognizes the "national significance" of this fish? Or maybe they are going a bit overboard, I am sure other NE states had the salmon once, maybe still do, and they do not have such a restrcited list...

Perhaps other states already detemined that most fish were not really a problem after all?? I wonder?

sorry but this just gets my blood going, can ya tell?
 
From the length of the list of 'allowed' fish it appears to me that a list of 'not allowed' fish would be shorter. It would be nice if to place a fish on the 'not allowed' fish list it would have to be PROVEN that a certain fish realistically poses a REAL risk to native species. Of course, that would take lawmakers that actually are able to think for themselves and know the difference between REMOTE POSSIBILITY and PROBABILITY. I am in favor of allowing a permit but with adequate application and inspection to ensure that an individual fish and/or fish keeper poses little threat of being released into the wild. It's the same argument that is used (unsuccessfully I might add) to attempt to outlaw private ownership of firearms....... hmmm........did someone say 'Sportsmans Alliance'? Guess it matters just how influential a group one belongs to what they are allowed to own........ Sue
 
The state of Maine has tried to avoid protecting Atlantic Salmon for years. The Federal government does have juristiction and are
most of reason Maine is doing anything at all.
The salmon season is good evidence of how much the Sportsmans Alliance controls DIF&W. Fishing for an endangered species does not make any sense. Why not have a paintball season on bald eagles? DIF&W stance on bears, coyotes, and wolves are more examples. It is not about the managing the environment. It is providing game and fish for sportsman. They just are misdirecting you by saying it is a salmon issue.
There are good reasons for the list and to be concerned with
invasive species. The DIF&W is the wrong group to manage any
environmental issue because of their bias.
 
i think while it may be playing it very safe, that the list is good. one shouldn't want to risk any potential harm to native species for the sake of a hobby. even though it would certainly effect my business, i am for the notion (which is also the direction of the state of maine) to eventually allow only aquacultured species to hobbyists. while this will severly limit our choices, it will also make for advances in aquaculture as well as numbers of species in the wild. invasive species are huge problems in some areas and it has been proven that aquarium hobbyists whether knowingly or not have added to the problems. the plant hydrilla is invading maine ponds and was introduced from the aquarium trade. non local invasive species that stemmed from aquariums include snakeheads, oscars, plecos., caulerpa, and the latest discovery is lionfish being found off the atlantic coast.
customers in the past have written reports to provide information to show that specific species cannot survive in our water if released. there are several species of tetras, including lemon tetras which have been placed back on the legal list after the state has reviewed these reports. as for the state being too busy to accept requests, i feel it is still worth a shot if you really want a fish on the list so badly, but i do not feel we should bombard the inland fisheries with complaints because they have far more important issues to be dealing with ......
 
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