Mike de Leon
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How difficult is it to care for? My tank finally stabilized and is ready for some more acros.
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
Icefire Echinata?
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Mike de Leon
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How would it be compared to, say strawberry shortcake? I do have a colony that is doing very well. I also have a huge Loripes that continues to grow....
Sisterlimonpot
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FWIW, I have a SSC and an icefire. The icefire looks like it's on its way out. It started STNing this morning, I cut it up in hopes to salvage it, I don't have high hopes that it's going to make it. I got the frag Jan 4th and it stabilized and started to grow, then without warning the polyps stopped coming out and eventually started to wither away. Sucks because that was the most expensive frag I ever bought. But on the other hand the SSC is growing pretty quickly with great polyp extension.
Some people have a hard time with SSC so you're definitely on the right track, I thought that I had things under control to be able to try my hand at the icefire, however it didn't agree with something in my tank.
Some people have a hard time with SSC so you're definitely on the right track, I thought that I had things under control to be able to try my hand at the icefire, however it didn't agree with something in my tank.
SPSEMPIRE
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By far the icefire echinata is the hardest acro that i have tried to keep. The main reason that I believe it is so difficult is that these have not been in captivity too long and are constantly imported without any type of mariculture process. It is a big adjustment for the enhinata to go into our systems from being several months out of the ocean.
Mike de Leon
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Buying a colony as oppose to a frag seems a better deal considering how much the frags go for. And besides, its both wild caught. There is a good importer locally that brings in nice pieces from time to time. I just have to wait for a good healthy piece...or maybe wait until my parameters are actually under control..
SPSEMPIRE
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I agree with you on this one. If you can keep Loripes than the icefire echinata is not far behind it although the echinata is defiantly a difficult acro to keep.
Here is a picture of mine before I lost it due to a tank crash during a week long vacation. I was actually able to get some PE out of this acro.
dvanacker
DID I SOUNDS SMRT??
Are we talking wild aussie echinata or the ice fire echinata....because to me there is a difference. The ice fire was in the hobby long before the wild australian echinata's starting coming in.
Does ReefRaft call all there wild echinata's ice fire? I find a lot of people who get them there call them ice fire.
Ice fire is a tyree coral. It's like calling every tricolor the garf bonsai.
Does ReefRaft call all there wild echinata's ice fire? I find a lot of people who get them there call them ice fire.
Ice fire is a tyree coral. It's like calling every tricolor the garf bonsai.
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I'd actually consider the original Icefire (Tyree, Aquascene, or whatever) a pretty solid coral. I've grown a mini shrub of a colony from a TINY <1/2" frag in about a year. It was from lineaged stock and is looking awesome. Considering how small the frag was I'd consider it a pretty fast grower.
FWIW I've had a few SSC frags in the same system that haven't fared as well. One RTN'd, the other was doing well and starting to color up and I remounted it on the rockwork. This seriously ticked it off and it's lost all PE for the past 6 months or so. It was receding, but recently turned around and started encrusting over the dead parts.
Like pretty much any coral, a captive frag is going to be hardier than the wild frags being sold nowadays.
FWIW I've had a few SSC frags in the same system that haven't fared as well. One RTN'd, the other was doing well and starting to color up and I remounted it on the rockwork. This seriously ticked it off and it's lost all PE for the past 6 months or so. It was receding, but recently turned around and started encrusting over the dead parts.
Like pretty much any coral, a captive frag is going to be hardier than the wild frags being sold nowadays.
although i obviously dont have the ice fire OG living in aus but had a wild colony, i found this one of the easier to keep acro in stable conditions. as the branches are thinner it does not require such high flow as what i consider to be harder to keep acro eg humulis.
the hardest thing i find with echinata is to stick them down, they are spikey and hurt to glue down and fall.
IME once they have encrusted they are super fast growers also.
edit - forgot they hate alk swings so if you cant keep that stable you will have problems which may be why people consider them harder to keep?
the hardest thing i find with echinata is to stick them down, they are spikey and hurt to glue down and fall.
IME once they have encrusted they are super fast growers also.
edit - forgot they hate alk swings so if you cant keep that stable you will have problems which may be why people consider them harder to keep?
Mike de Leon
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Good point Darryl. Although I did mention Icefire, it is not something readily available to us here. Reefraft don't really call theirs icefire. Although to someone ignorant like me I will not know the difference.
Do you have one in your tank? I would like to throw one in my tank...
Mike de Leon
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I do get alk swings from time to time due to difficulty in tuning my crx. Time to ball...
dvanacker
DID I SOUNDS SMRT??
Hey Mike,
Unfortunately I dont have any echinata in my tank.....I WISH. Its on a very short list of corals I would like to get my hands on. I dont like to shop at RR anymore so I dont know what the odds of me getting one are.
about your crx.....I can only talk from my personal experice but I like my dosing system much better than dealing with a calcium reactor.
Unfortunately I dont have any echinata in my tank.....I WISH. Its on a very short list of corals I would like to get my hands on. I dont like to shop at RR anymore so I dont know what the odds of me getting one are.
about your crx.....I can only talk from my personal experice but I like my dosing system much better than dealing with a calcium reactor.
Logzor
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During my transfer from my APT to the new house, I lost a number of nice acros, then everything went into the recovery phase for the next two months.
Throughout this entire ordeal my icefire (the true original tyree or whatever) was one of several corals that were barely phased (including my Cali Tort). This has been a very hardy coral and a strong grower, I have also had luck keeping the color.
HTH
Throughout this entire ordeal my icefire (the true original tyree or whatever) was one of several corals that were barely phased (including my Cali Tort). This has been a very hardy coral and a strong grower, I have also had luck keeping the color.
HTH
29reef
It's all about the flow
I'm going to agree with the others keeping the Tyree version of the echinata, mine seems to be tanking off and is very hardy. I got a larger frag of wild echinata before I had my Tyree coral. The wild one has sence died while the tyree is about 4x the size and continues to grow faster as it gets larger. I've also noticed as it's gotten bigger I'm starting to see the white in it and it's not just blue and green.
So as with just about every sps it seems the captive raised and fragged coral is much hardier. Another reason why they cost more and are worth the higher price. Imo
So as with just about every sps it seems the captive raised and fragged coral is much hardier. Another reason why they cost more and are worth the higher price. Imo
Mike de Leon
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Looked at a couple over at RR. Some nice pieces. Maybe when I do pick one up I we can split it...
Are you doing
3 part?
Thank you for all the response BTW. I might pick up a colony.
