"ICH FREE TANK" Quest Begins

[Triggerfish]

fish is doing great..moving in the open a bit more today..
1st ten days will be critical to see if the ich was still in the tank or not... i should be seeing something on him by then i would think.

 

[markcasto]

White spot returns!
I cant belive it my last week of hypo and I start raising the salinity on day 2 with the salinity at 1.011 the white spot is all over my regal tangs again.Well thats it I have had enough when the salinity is back to normal I am going to treat them all with cuprazan copper treatment.
AAAAAAAAAGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

 

[markcasto]

Decided to dose with waterlifes cuprazin today and have put 8ml in the 52 gallon tank to kill this parasite once and for all.Going to keep a close eye on the 20gallon tank as the salinity goes up this week to make sure no ich appears in there.The main tank can stay empty until this out break of ich is under control.

I cant belive it 4 weeks at 1.009 then in just two days raising the salinity to 1.011 it comes right back,you have to admire its staying power.

 

[water`bug]

Good luck to you!

 

[markcasto]

Thank you donna I think I am going to need it!

 

[cduran02]

The copper will take care of the ich for sure.

 

[Triggerfish]

White spot returns!

wow,,that blows..you haven't noticed anything on those fish in 4 weeks eh? then you raise it up 2 notches and it takes hold again.. that's a difficult one to try and figure out. i don't blame ya for going with another treatment now.

i may be headed for doing the same.. after a solid 3 weeks of hypo (once i got the refrac) i am still seeing spots on all fish. although only a very very small faint one on my niger.
amazingly, the angel after being a host magnet was doing well and i got him the heck out of there.
it is very hard to tell what is going on with my maroon as from time to time he develops some type of whitish body slime in small patches..but there does look like he has a distinct whitespot on the rear. i got to go with that it's ich still.
i got my sg sitting at 1.008 now. i'm going to give it a couple more weeks, then that's it for hypo.

in fact,,i think i will take my niger out and treat with copper in the 10g,,wonder if i have some type of low sg resistent strain?? i don't know,,this just doesn't seem to be working all that well and could go on for 3+ months.

angel in main tank still looking good...fingers crossed on that one..

 

[markcasto]

Well on thing that seems to be certain is that during the 4 weeks of hypo at 1.009 (and it did not go above that I checked it twice each day) the ich was not showing up on any of the fish so it slowed it down for sure but just 2 days with the salinity above 1.009 and its right back there again.I have been very very careful with all this so in my mind there is no doubt hypo at 1.009 four 4 weeks did not get rid of it. However it did slow it down thats for sure and as an alternitive to copper treatment it must be worth trying.Having said all that I am now going to use copper to kill it off still it was worth trying it out but it didnt work for me I guess
big sigh...

 

[AquAsylum]

Hello...I have read almost the entire thread, and all of the articles linked in various posts. We will be moving our fish to a QT in the next day or so.

What I can't figure out is whether you do a dip as part of the transfer process- FW, formalin, etc. Seems it would be helpful in eliminating cross contamination as much as possible. Any thoughts? Thanks- gearing up for a long road

 

[water`bug]

We did a freshwater dip before moving them into QT; which I believe was hard on the fish.

We ended up losing Peepers, our Kole Tang. But the others survived though the whole hypo-selenity process.

We just moved them back out of 50g QT to the 90g main display today.

Good luck... the road seems never-ending!

Wait! LQQK! I see the sun at the end of the tunnel!

(Keeping fingers crossed)

donna in New Orleans

 

[tjay]

the fresh water dip I agree with as donna girl said, I read somewhere that if a fish wont survive a fresh water dip, that it was most likely not going to make it any way, that was the case with our cole.
He was the carrier of the ich that got into our system

 

[tjay]

other white spots

other white spots

Ok our fish just made it back in. The nasso tang has four little salt like spots on it.
Here is my question.
Can we be to parnoid here? The fish are all eating no glancing water parameters are optimal. The nasso is still dark, colored like stress but they are adjusting to a new tank, lighting, sand, more room and most different water flow.

Does a white dot on a fish have to mean ich???????

 

[markcasto]

Well when you see ich it could be just one little spot or two then it spreads and before you know it your back where you started with a tank full of infected fish.Or in my case it could just be sitting there useen waiting for the salinity to go up again and then whoopeee lets go get em. I would treat any white spot with great caution and not put any ANY thing back in my main tank if I suspect white spot at all.Unless of course you injoy emptying a 130 gallon tank and moving all your fish about.

If its there you must kill every last one of the parasites or it will just come back at you again.Look at my QT tank its in there and when the salinity goes up a notch it comes right back clearly survived 4 weeks at 1.009 salinity. IT must be the new breed of super ich!

 

[Triggerfish]

Re: other white spots

Re: other white spots

What I can't figure out is whether you do a dip as part of the transfer process- FW, formalin(

you certainly could do either prior to moving in the QT, since you have to catch the fish anyway. both methods i have read will not eliminate the parasite that is dug deep in. i have done both baths and dips 3x with my angel when he was in the main tank,,he had no less than 20 noticeable spots, when he was done there were like 3-4..either they fell off or dug in out of sight...i think they fell off as that would make more sense

Ok our fish just made it back in. The nasso tang has four little salt like spots on it.
Here is my question.
Can we be to parnoid here?
Does a white dot on a fish have to mean ich???????

ok,,, it could be sand or air bubbles,,my angel had 3 lrg grains of sand on him that i thought could have been ich,,but after one moved around a bit and 1 blew off as i watched,,i figured it was sand that got stuck to his slime coating..i have good flow and sand moves around a bit.

unless the parasite was feeding on the fish all along and now is maturing and ready to fall, it's hard to imagine that it got infected in the main tank that quickly and already visible.

or,,due to the light color of the naso tang, you didn't notice it while in the QT and now that the naso is dark due to stress,,you can see it easily???? just a guess.
you're just gonna have to keep an eye on it,,hopeing that if it is an infection that it is so low that it hopefully just disipitates over time.
let us know,,as this would be interesting as you went the full duration with everything,,and we would have to take a look to see what the heck may have went wrong....

 

[Triggerfish]

Look at my QT tank its in there and when the salinity goes up a notch it comes right back clearly survived 4 weeks at 1.009 salinity. IT must be the new breed of super ich!

this may be why i think the recommended treatment time is 6 weeks after the last spot has been seen.

 

[cduran02]

Still no signs of ich here. Looks like cupramine did the job for me.

Now still searching for a way to reduce the QT time for sea stars that I will be feeding my harlequin shrimp. Does anyone have any ideas? I was thinking of basically presure washing the star to remove anything that may be riding on it, then doing a FW dip (I know it would ultimately kill, but it should live long enough for the harlequin to eat it), then finally QT at high temperature (82F) for 2 weeks (this is the time period between feedings).

Does this sound like it would work?

 

[leebca]

Triggerfish:

You guys are cathing on --- the hard way.

 

[leebca]

cduran02

Yes. . .If you're lucky. No. . .To be 100% sure.

 

[plaz]

Will the Harlequin eat any kind of Sea Stars? I only have a few of the little tiny white fat ones... used to have them in almost plague proportion. These are shaped like the ones Garf says eat corals - but these white ones never have. They were just a nuisance. I've been slowly eliminating them over time (didn't know anyone with a Harlequin). I will collect the few that I find left and mail them to you when I have several if you want them.

The tank is still ich free according to the two hippos.

PS Tjay - I will keep my fingers crossed it is just sand. My tangs scrared the heck out of me at first - they woke up every morning with sand somewhere on them from the DSB. It always came off within the day though.

 

[Triggerfish]

you would need something that could remove any cysts that may be riding on the invert,,perhaps a fw dip would make it rupture or fall off,,considering they would be on the surface and not under the skin. anything less than a 4 week quarantine for any invert would be just guessing i think..

plaz- that's good news..what method did you use again? and how long have your tangs been clean so far?