ICH? help plz

I too have just had an outbreak after years of success. Lost 5 fish after my wife brought me home a "gift" flame angel... My 6 Line and maroon clown lost their spots and appear healthy for now but I know their not out of the woods. Does anyone have experience with using a UV sterilizer?

I use a UV sterilizer, set to a flow recommended for parasites, as one of my first measures when I had an Ich outbreak. Will it cure the Ich on the fish and in the tank? No. Is it effective? Depends on who you listen to. Anyhow, I continue to use it even though I've already eradicated the Ich with hypo because I believe it does decrease the population of disease making it easier for the system and the livestock to handle them. It also decreases good things, but I can and do add the good things back.
 
I have battled ICH since I put my first fish in my reef tank. It has come and go, it has killed fish, I have had many fish live and out grow my nano reef tank. Once I had 2 clowns die and my prized yellow head jawfish die....I was so upset that I vowed to take the tank down and get out of the salt. After 5-6 weeks the owner of my LFS convienced me to give fish one more try so she gave me a very healthy, very active, very large (nearly 2-1/2") sgt. major damsel. He ruled my reef, well, him and my blood red shrimp for a month or so. I got the urge to add something, so i added 2 small orange skunk clowns and removed the damsel. Now, mind you both clowns were very healthy, eating, perfect coats and fins. I had watched them in a tank by themselves for a week or so at my LFS. I got them home, long acclimation, etc. 3 days later....ICH! I threw my hands up in the air and said I give up! one of the clowns actually died, but the other is still happy and doing well. after the first died, i decided to take a diet approach to the fight. i started to prepare my own food. i crushed and chopped San Francisco Bay Brand Marine Cuisine, a couple of cubes of frozen brine shrimp and hit that in the micro for a few seconds to melt it. added seachem garlic guard and a dab of a gel based penicillin. put that in the freezer, after it froze i cut it into feeding blocks. I also dose once weekly with seachem stress guard and each water change i add seachem stablity to my water after the change. sucess? who knows, but no ich for a while and my fish seem very alert and happy.

I just thought i would share my story because ich is one of those things that im sure will always be in my tank and will attack fish that are stressed or unhealthy. good thing is, i dont let it keep me up at night anymore. miracle liquids? nah, i used kick ich, rid ich, and one other i cant remember. i did fresh water dips, i did seachem paraguard dips. i have concluded that the dips probably stress out the fish more than help and in a weekened state they die. so whatever.

bottomline, after reading so many posts about ich i have come to the conclusion that everyone is wrong and everyone is right at the same time. because we all have different fish, tank sizes, water params, equipment, habitits, methods, handling procedures, transport methods, etc, etc. and what is PROVEN to work, absolutely, hands down will work in your tank just may not work in my tank. sorry but it just may not. it may, but it may not.
 
Well, I can tell you for sure that Rid-Ich is worthless. Used it on my tank for two continous periods./ One week later, My fish again had Ich. Waste of money.

Unclejed, preventive medicine and supplements are fine. BUT, when you have someone with pneumonia, and you give preventive medicine and supplements rather than proven treatment, that patient will most likely die. Same thing with Ich. If your fish has Ich, then treat the Ich, not this "boost natural immunity" nonsense from Marine Max.
 
Unclejed, preventive medicine and supplements are fine. BUT, when you have someone with pneumonia, and you give preventive medicine and supplements rather than proven treatment, that patient will most likely die. Same thing with Ich. If your fish has Ich, then treat the Ich, not this "boost natural immunity" nonsense from Marine Max.

Nonsense? Says you? Let me take a wild guess, you have never tried the product, you probably never heard of it until you read this thread.
 
things that make you go hmmm.....

things that make you go hmmm.....

Who needs proof? Common sense tells me that anything that would kill ich in its free-swimming mode (the only time it's vulnerable) would also be detrimental to other similar creatures.

I firmly believe that once ich has been introduced to your DT - the only way to eradicate it is to leave it fallow for at least 8 weeks.

One reason why I think it is important to wait as long as your patience allows before adding fish to your tank after your initial cycle, especially if your cycle was mild with fairly low ammonia levels. Your live rock may already have been infested with ich cysts which may have survived the cycle.

It still surprises me that people will go through the trouble and expense of creating these fantastic pieces of nature - with incredibly expensive do-dads and such, but when it comes to a QT tank, they don't have the money.

Or, after maintaining a complex reef environment (or at least attempting to) they act like maintaining a QT tank is somehow too hard or complex.

Too funny..... or maybe a little bit sad?
 
Nonsense? Says you? Let me take a wild guess, you have never tried the product, you probably never heard of it until you read this thread.

Wild guess is right. REALLY wild. You are waaaay off the mark, uncle. Same as your wild pronouncements regarding medications.

I have a show quality purple tang. Want to guess how much I paid for him? He became covered in Ich. Not once, but twice. You think I would not look at all the options? You think I would not try any medication?

Only someone who has nothing sensible to say attacks the other that has something sensible said, as you did above. So, I say nonsense to you. Twice. Nonsense. With emphasis. NONSENSE!
 
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I use a UV sterilizer, set to a flow recommended for parasites, as one of my first measures when I had an Ich outbreak. Will it cure the Ich on the fish and in the tank? No. Is it effective? Depends on who you listen to. Anyhow, I continue to use it even though I've already eradicated the Ich with hypo because I believe it does decrease the population of disease making it easier for the system and the livestock to handle them. It also decreases good things, but I can and do add the good things back.

Well, I can tell you for sure that Rid-Ich is worthless. Used it on my tank for two continous periods./ One week later, My fish again had Ich. Waste of money.

Unclejed, preventive medicine and supplements are fine. BUT, when you have someone with pneumonia, and you give preventive medicine and supplements rather than proven treatment, that patient will most likely die. Same thing with Ich. If your fish has Ich, then treat the Ich, not this "boost natural immunity" nonsense from Marine Max.

Wild guess is right. REALLY wild. You are waaaay off the mark, uncle. Same as your wild pronouncements regarding medications.

I have a show quality purple tang. Want to guess how much I paid for him? He became covered in Ich. Not once, but twice. You think I would not look at all the options? You think I would not try any medication?

Only someone who has nothing sensible to say attacks the other that has something sensible said, as you did above. So, I say nonsense to you. Twice. Nonsense. With emphasis. NONSENSE!

Sorry, I was just going off your other posts where you only mention trying one product. I like a good debate but this thread has used up any useful exchange. To each his/her own. I hope the original post was debated adequately.
 
Well, it's definitly ich... it started on the fins of my clowns and now its on the bodys. its white spots that looks like pieces of sand all over there bodys...

The thing is, I really don't have any money, its been my parents who have been buying the livestock. I don't know how i could tell my parents i have to go fishless in my tank to 8 weeks... then they will say that this hobbie is too expensive for us and ill have to stop... I don't want my fish to die though...

the ich only appears to be on my clowns, my 6line will swim around and rub on stuff, and my yellow watchmen just sits under his rock.
I wish there was an easy way to get rid of it....

I called my LFS and they gave me Ich-Attack, i have done two doses and havent seen any improvement. I heard about putting food in garlic and vitamin but idk... I don't know what else to do.........

Thanks guys...
 

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