Ick or brook?

[skatezen]

Is this ick or brook? I went to bed last night and the fish had a quite a few spots. My intention was to do a treatment today. I woke up this morning and they were covered.

 

[Spar]

im no expert with brook, but that doesnt look like Ich. does it look like the skin is starting to peel away? that would be a for sure sign of brook if so.

 

[Newsmyrna80]

Agree...does not look like ich. Do you have formalin or Quick Cure on hand? If not a FW dip for a few minutes will alleviate symptoms until you can get some.

 

[Deinonych]

+2 on it not looking like ich. It could be brook, but I've not seen it look so "grainy" like that. How is the fish's behavior? Is it breathing rapidly, hiding or acting listless? Is it eating?

 

[skatezen]

Both clowns are dead. Cherub angel pair And yellow watchman goby not looking so hot.

 

[snorvich]

Sounds like brook or uronema. When asking for a diagnosis, time line, source, and history are more important than just appearance.

 

[MrTuskfish]

The quick death sure confirms the brooklynella diagnosis by the folks above. Another sign of brook is the asymetrical "spots" that is common with ich. Once you've seen ich, its fairly easy to diagnose.

Brook presents in many different ways; but your other fish need formalin ASAP. (Or a product that contains formalin, like Quick Cure) Treatment must be done in a HT/QT. Clowns are very susceptible to this parasite and I'm just guessing that they were added recently and not quarantined. Sorry, if I'm wrong.

 

[skatezen]

The clowns were QTed for 2 weeks with prazipro before introduction the DT because they had white stringy poo and weren't eating well. At the two week mark they were eating like pigs, no longer had stringy poo and showed no other symptoms and seemed in good health. I don't do prophylactic treatments on fish that aren't showing signs of disease or infection. The clowns were in the DT for two weeks before they started showing signs of brook, which was yesterday. When I went to bed last night they had a few spots, nothing like the picture. Before I left for work at 5am I snapped that pic. The fish were covered in spots and breathing heavily. Deceased 9 hours later. I'm currently treating my cherubs and YWG with formalin baths and they have been moved to a QT tank.

 

[snorvich]

Could be either Uronema Marinum or brook. Sounds like you are doing the right thing. Were they acquired from a source that runs a low level of copper in their system?

 

[Deinonych]

Sorry for your losses. IME, two weeks is not enough time to do observational QT. 8 - 10 weeks is probably more appropriate if you aren't going to proactively treat. Hope your other fish pull through!

 

[CoralsAddiction]

I would take all of your fish out for at least 4 weeks from the tank.

 

[snorvich]

I would take all of your fish out for at least 4 weeks from the tank.

Depending on which parasite, the fallow period should be six weeks to twelve weeks.