ID - Shrimp
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Pandora
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Commander, I saw your other post, earlier. I didn't add to it, because I am no expert on shrimp ID... and because this one (you didn't mention in this new post thread) was collected out in the Mediterranean, and I don't think is a commonly available LFS species. I agree with the post in the other thread to try the invert forum... esp people like LeslieH, who work in natural history & taxonomy. Most people in the reef forum are most familiar with species that are common in the hobby, and there are hundreds of species of shrimp that never make it to aquariums. What part of the Mediterranean was it collected from?
Ghost shrimp (Natania sp.) are only FW as far as I know, though I agree the second resembles one.
When my peppermint was first added to the tank, it blanched in color and actually very much resembled the first pic.
Ghost shrimp (Natania sp.) are only FW as far as I know, though I agree the second resembles one.
When my peppermint was first added to the tank, it blanched in color and actually very much resembled the first pic.
Amphiprion
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Looks to be one of the Palaemonidae. Not terribly sure, but look up the family and see if/where yours falls under it.
Reefcherie
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Sure looks a lot like the Penaeus vannamei that I buy from Seawater Express to feed my frogfish.
Cheri
Cheri
Pandora
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Amanos (C. japonica) are also only FW only (plus, they don't come from that part of the world). I have some pictured in my homepage in the inverts section, if you want to look again... they are in my planted tank.
I'm not sure if there are more than one species of white shrimp, also. From what I understand, most are used as feeders for SW aquaria when young, but are species of food shrimp (for human consumption) when they grow larger.
I'm not sure if there are more than one species of white shrimp, also. From what I understand, most are used as feeders for SW aquaria when young, but are species of food shrimp (for human consumption) when they grow larger.
Pandora
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Personally, I think your pictures are about as clear as a layperson's photos are going to get, and you gave a location for collection. The problem isn't that.
It may come down to a certain kind of serration on one set of claws that separates out one group of shrimp from another (I don't know, I'm just guessing). It's like this in entomology, so color photos don't really help, because as romunav pointed out, it takes more than casual observation of overal color patterns and shapes. Real experts will know what to look for (which is why I was asking for the taxonomic algorithm), most of us just look and say, "hey, it sort of looks like my camel shrimp, but it doesn't look like my skunk cleaner", which doesn't really help.... there are probably hundreds of species that look similar to the clearish gray shrimp shown, most of which will never be captured for the aquarium because of their dull color. I am tagging along to this thread because I am curious myself and want to learn more about shrimp identification.
It may come down to a certain kind of serration on one set of claws that separates out one group of shrimp from another (I don't know, I'm just guessing). It's like this in entomology, so color photos don't really help, because as romunav pointed out, it takes more than casual observation of overal color patterns and shapes. Real experts will know what to look for (which is why I was asking for the taxonomic algorithm), most of us just look and say, "hey, it sort of looks like my camel shrimp, but it doesn't look like my skunk cleaner", which doesn't really help.... there are probably hundreds of species that look similar to the clearish gray shrimp shown, most of which will never be captured for the aquarium because of their dull color. I am tagging along to this thread because I am curious myself and want to learn more about shrimp identification.
Sorry, I've been writing, and writing, and writing, and yeap, writing.
Color can be a great way to ID shrimps, just not when they are preserved or with species that can vary coloration. Most of the species I work with we develop coloration keys or use color plates in the publications because color is such a great resource.
I don't really do much with the shore shrimps, but Cédric d'Udekem d'Acoz would know the species off hand from the photo. I'll send him an email and see if he responds. He is really busy so don't count on it.
Family is Palaemonidae. Common shore, Rock Shrimp. No really something that i would keep in my reefs. Could be Palaemon or Palaemonetes; my guess would be Palaemonetes but I can't see enough of the shrimp in your picture and I don't work with this group much. The ecology of the group is pretty much the same, both are common along rocks and shore lines, pretty much will eat anything they can.
Check Cedric's website out, be respectful to his requests on copyrights and links.
http://www.tmu.uit.no/crustikon/Decapoda/Decapoda.htm
Les, I have a few worms for you, from the Keys, how to do you want them? I did find this great fire worm 25cm long, my hand was numb to my elbow
for about 6 hours. I hate those things.
andy
Color can be a great way to ID shrimps, just not when they are preserved or with species that can vary coloration. Most of the species I work with we develop coloration keys or use color plates in the publications because color is such a great resource.
I don't really do much with the shore shrimps, but Cédric d'Udekem d'Acoz would know the species off hand from the photo. I'll send him an email and see if he responds. He is really busy so don't count on it.
Family is Palaemonidae. Common shore, Rock Shrimp. No really something that i would keep in my reefs. Could be Palaemon or Palaemonetes; my guess would be Palaemonetes but I can't see enough of the shrimp in your picture and I don't work with this group much. The ecology of the group is pretty much the same, both are common along rocks and shore lines, pretty much will eat anything they can.
Check Cedric's website out, be respectful to his requests on copyrights and links.
http://www.tmu.uit.no/crustikon/Decapoda/Decapoda.htm
Les, I have a few worms for you, from the Keys, how to do you want them? I did find this great fire worm 25cm long, my hand was numb to my elbow
for about 6 hours. I hate those things.andy
