ID sickness of Regal Angel

Sango-chu

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Gentlemen, this was a fine specimen about three weeks ago and then all of a sudden it turn to this. I thought it was Ick so I turned up the heat a little bit in the in 275 gal dispaly tank and then found out that angels prefer cooler water so the temp is going back down slowly. I will be doing massve water changes and need to know what this is so I can attach accordingly. I am praying that its Marine velvet. None of my other fish show/have symptoms.

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Thanks in advance for all and all assistance!!!
 
oh...rapid breathing, fins rotting, not eating, semi active...still comes to me when he sees me...I love this fish... Will be doing a FW dip here today once I get my QT set setup and running...
 
Luis,

You may be facing multiple problems here. Was the fish a long term captive? In one of the shots, it is clear that there is a distinct bulge in its abdomen....not something you typically see in Pygoplites! Either the fish was eating REALLY well, or it has edema from kidney failure.

The skin lesions, cloudy eyes, rapid breathing and fin erosion is probably an advanced Cryptocaryon (ick) but could also be Brookynella, or either of those problems combined with flukes and/or a secondary bacterial infection.

A freshwater dip at this point will not help, esecially if you return it to the same tank. Raising the temperature to combat Cryptocaryon is often incorrectly applied - it must be done in conjunction with a treatment of some sort. The higher temperature is only meant to speed up the life cycle, getting the parasite to the point where a treatment can work on the vunerable tomite stage. Raising the temperature without a treatment will just make the fish sicker sooner.

Sorry to be blunt, but the key to the probem is really your statement, "this was a fine specimen about three weeks ago " - the best chance for action would have been 20 days ago...it seems too late now.

That said, if it were my fish, I would move it to a hospital tank and treat it with chloroquine. Copper is usually my first choice except that it usually takes three days or so to work, and I don't think the fish has that long. Alternately, you could try a 45 minute formalin dip at 200 ppm followed by hyposalinity at a specific gravity of 1.009 - but you'll have to drop the fish to that level in 12 hours or so, and this treatment also may take longer than the fish has left.

Sorry, but IMO you need to watch your remaining fish very closely for simlar problems....


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Jay, thanks. Youy hit the nail on the head. My baby was dead when I checked on her this morning...wow. Since I have never suffered such a case with this before, I was completely unaware of its oncoming and cycle.

I am running my tank on Okinawa Japan and I went to the most popular LFS here and THEY told me that Japan really has no medicine for Mrine tanks; just freshwater. I was shocked. Came home did the FWD and put it in the QT with some local medicine (actually water conditioner) they had available.

Since I am running a LPS/SPS tank I can't add any meds to the main system. I will kep an eye out for the other fish and keep this posted.

My questions is?: What have I learned from this. Didn't know about the belly/kidney thing ~ thanks; Chloroquine for the emergency ick dip ~ thanks; and the formalin dip - but how do I measure it out to 200 ppm? ~ anyways thanks.

What medicines do you recommend I keep on hand for future bouts like this making me the winner?

Again, thanks for the assistance.
Luis
 
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