In-Wall 180 Project

jarhed

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Hey folks,

So, after being on this site for exactly a year on 4/16, I bought a house (for the tank, my wife thinks it was because we wanted more room), and began planning my tank.

I've torn out a small coat closet in the living room and will basically be extending the closet out and putting the tank in wall.

I'll be cutting out the carpet in the area of the new interior fish room and placing the stand directly on the concrete, after I seal it. On the back wall of the room, I'll mount my RO/DI unit, a sub-panel, any controllers, etc. There will be two new 20amp circuits dedicated to the fish room.

The tank will be viewable from the front and from one side, so it will be a corner mount. Not being a professional framer or drywaller, this should prove to be a challenge, but I love a challenge! :D

I have a monster beckett skimmer (can be seen in the gallery) that is upgradeable to a dual. Not sure if/when I'll be doing that, as I think it should handle a 180 with a moderate fish load just fine. It's 40" tall. My auto-topoff will be designed in the next couple of weeks as will the sump. Sump will most likely be a 60gallon that I'll drill three times, one outlet for the skimmer, one for the calcium reactor (that I dont have yet), and one for the return pump.

I purchased a 72" 3x250watt MH canopy from someone here with two VHO's. That will be suspended from the ceiling with some mechanism that will allow me to raise or lower it for tank service and cleaning.

In the ceiling, there will be an AC duct extended to the room, an attic vent fan, and an outlet for the lighting fans to connect to the single exhause duct that will run from the room to a pre-existing vent or a new vent, depending on whether or not the span will be too long. I'll be afixing two high volume fans to blow across the water surface also to aid in cooling. I know this sounds insane, but I'm trying to go sans-chiller. SoCal Edison has already gotten theirs from me, and didnt even bother buying me a drink first or calling me the day after. :fun1: :sad1:

Anyway, here it goes:


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I found a drain to the tub from the bathroom next door. Wondering if I can figure out a way to use it, or if I should use it. I have a septic tank, no sewer. :confused:

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More to come later! :wavehand:
 
Closed loop pattern and skimmer pic. The tank is done. Picking it up on 4/14 from Coral Oasis in Irvine. With the drilling, and overflow, it only cost around $500. DEFINITELY go see these folks! Just stay away from my damn tank on the floor in the front of the store! :smokin:

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IMHO, I would not plumb your waste water into your septic ... that said like'n the rest of your plan so far!
 
Thanks Bax!

Wasnt sure. Dont really know much about septic. Sewer I could care less about. Got pics of the tank comin next!
 
Back east septics are like gold and ANY extra Bio load is BAD!

Can't wait to see your 180! I am getting ready to move and I am planning a 180 to 210ish sized reef tank for the new house. I'll follow with interest Jarhed.

Good luck! Have fun!
 
Thanks Bax!

Yeah, I'm from Pennsyltucky originally. WE ARE!! - Penn State!!

:thumbsup: :celeb2:

We had a septic tank when I was growing up but it was dug up and filled in back in '76.
 
New Pics!

Pics of the demo process. At least some of the pics. Wife almost coughed up knee cartiledge when she came to see what all the noise was. My 2-year old son loved it! :smokin:


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going............
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GONE!!!!!
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Another angle
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My sweet little girl!! :bum:
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Shameless plug :mixed:
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Off we go!

I decided to break out the plastic card and head to Home Depot for lumber this Saturday morning. Borrowed the father in law's saw, purchased a powder driver to set the base of the wall/frame into the concrete. Worked out pretty well.

Now, I dont think I did too bad a job never having been a carpenter. I can rebuild engines all day long in my garage, but carpentry is something I've never had the occasion to master.

That being said, I did manage to build a monster stand and it certainly appears to me to be extremely stable and way overengineered.

I cut the carpet out of where the room will be on Thursday night, so I was a little ahead of the game.

Then, I put two strips of pressure treated 2x4 on the floor and shot them in:

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Feeling way too sure of myself, having successfully shot in the base, I went ahead and built the stand, then tested it out by putting my huge keister on it.

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Not to bad. It almost didnt fit in the sliding door because it's 32" deep. Had to force it and almost break the glass door. :hmm5: Yes, the tank is only about 25", but I wanted that shelf on the rear to put two closed loop pumps and whatever tools, food, supplements I'll be using every now and again.

You'll notice that the braces on the rear side of the stand are not reinforced, but I will be finishing that some night this week.

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Two questions for those carpenter/engineers out there:

a) Being that the stand is 32" deep, and the tank is only 25" deep, am I going to be putting any undue stress on the 3/4" plywood underneat the rear of the tank, considering that the rear rim of the tank WONT be directly supported by the stand itself? Would I need any joists to run from front to back underneath the plywood?

b) Some of the verticle reinforcements (on the outside) are not completely touching the rectangular frame at the top to support it. A testament to my poor cutting skills with a circular saw. It's a wonder I still have all my fingers. I've crammed paint stir sticks in any gaps that they would fit in and will sand down and insert the others also. Will the thin slivers of paint stir sticks provide the right amount of support in the gap?

Waiting for your guidance/opinions! :)
 
Since I have never really posted pics of my 40 gal in about a year (in the gallery), I figured I'd show you what I'm moving up from:

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Looking good so far :)

Since its a 180g glass, most of the weight will be on the corners, I would put one more 2x4 on each end underneath the cross piece, where the corner of the tank is(will be).

This will also help you (b) question. Make sure the 2 pieces you put in fit snug. They should pretty much stay there by themselves before you put any nails in.

Keep the pics coming :)

Steve
 
Thanks Steve!

I'll cut the extra pieces and put them in tomorrow. I'll do them just as I did the ones up front. Overengineering never hurt I figure.
 
Looking good so far. Sweet blue sponge.

Do like reefadict suggested and add two extra front-back braces to support the plywood.
 
Lookin good jarhed!!!

Keep the up dates coming! ...

... and that is a great sponge!!!
 
Thanks all!! BTW, the sponge came from Coral Oasis in Irvine.

I've been framing all day, managed to get the door done, now trying to finish the first leg of the upper wall on the side with the door. I have it up, but it's not even, there is almost a 1" difference from front to back. Just a little slant in the ceiling that I didnt take into account, not to mention the extra 2x4 I didnt consider. I must be getting tired.

Going to let my screwdriver battery charge back up, take that leg down and cut the studs in it down to size. Going to begin at one length of stud on one side, then end with a different size stud on the other, then just run the 2x4 along the bottom of the studs. That will make up for the almost 1" difference. Hopefully, I'll be posting pics of FULLY completed framing tomorrow night. Gotta rent a sawsall tomorrow from HD to pull out some old top plates from the old closet.
 
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