Interesting night

[ryan_ferguson25]

So I added a Coral beauty and a skunk shrimp last night to our aquarium. It has been cycled for approx. 7 weeks now.

We currently have:
2 occelleris clowns
1 small hippo tang
1 juvenile magnificent fox face
3 Nass snails

About 5 minutes after I added the coral beauty I noticed white spots on the tang..like 5 or 6...looked exactly like all the pictures of ich I've seen. Then noticed on the coral beauty and a couple spots on the fox face. Started to freak out... went to bed...

Woke up this morning expecting to set up a QT and start ich treatment but all the spits on the 3 fish are gone... was it not ich?? What would the spits be?

Fish are not QT'D before adding...just drip acclimated. Coral beauty had nothing at the LFS. .. I hand picked it with store owner after he QT's them before adding to his display tanks...

Was it...is it ich?

I know ich can go away on its own sometimes...

 

[AlSimmons]

How big is your tank? I'm not sure what those spots were, but 5 fish in a tank that's only 7 weeks old is just asking for trouble IMO, especially since none of them have been quarantined. I hope everything works out for you though. Good luck!

 

[GimpyFin]

I was curious about tank size as well with the fox face and blue tang. Even if there isn't anything visible at the store, it doesn't mean you're in the clear. (Not just ich either.) IMO, you also can't trust/rely on a fish store saying they QT fish. If it is ich, it was likely in the tank before you added the coral beauty (Based on the fact none of the fish have been QT'd.) Fish can fight it off, but it will still be in the tank and can pop back up (Often times with stress) unless the tank is run fishless for almost 3 months.

Obviously, it's not something anybody wants to deal with on a newly setup tank, but if you are needing or wanting help with QT and treatment methods, there are some good sticky posts in this section of the forum with lots of information. Anyway, hope that helps.

 

[Preble]

More likely stress spots.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Betaktical]

I had the same thing happen with my fairy wrasse except he was in the tank for over a month before he showed signs. Woke up one morning and he had what looked like ich and then next morning it was all gone. Nothing since then and I have a cardinal and 2 oc clowns and they ha e never showed signs.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Preble]

My clown fish did the same thing when I first put them in my tank they were very very small and couldn't really swim in the current too well so I will he ran my circulation pump a couple hours a day one day I forgot to cut it off and it ran all night the next morning my clowns have white spots all over them that look like itI was scared immediately started to research yada yada yada and couple hours later spots were gone. (After I cut the fan off)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[tjm9331]

well without giving you the whole "you should really QT all your fish" speech I will say that I used to do the same thing of just adding the fish to my DT after drip acclimating. I learned the hard way the importance of a QT tank.

when I first started I had a falco hawkfish, marine betta, rusty angel, yellow tang and blue eyed anthias. now I didn't add these fish all at once but I made the mistake of adding them to the DT without QT, the yellow tang was the last in a few days after adding him I noticed some spots on my rusty angel, next day they went away so I didn't think anything of it. couple days later the spots were back then went away. at the end of the week I performed a water change, I don't have a sump so the change had to be done in the DT...well this stressed this fish out a bit and after the water change the rusty angel and the anthias now had spots. I started to feed with garlic but it was sadly too late I started losing fish slowly, first was actually the yellow tang. I was able to save the marine betta and hawkfish though, I got them out and into a QT for meds and left the tank fishless for 72 days. trust me I'll never make that mistake again.

my suggestion get them out and treat them if nothing else but as a precaution. It could be nothing or it be a ticking time bomb waiting to explode.

 

[ryeguyy84]

looks like this is in a 90 gallon

 

[Sk8r]

Sometimes grains of white sand can stick to fishes' skin and cause concern.

On the other hand, if it was ich, it just finished the fish part of its life-cycle and dived for the sandbed to start phase 2.

Hoping it was sand grains.

 

[Gilby]

I suspect velvet. It can resemble ich to a certain degree but can cause deaths a lot quicker than ich.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[ryan_ferguson25]

I stopped at home a couple times today to check on everyone...and they look good... LFS suggested raising tank temp to 80 degrees, adding garlic to food to boost immune and a food additive anti-biotic just in case theres anything else.

I was kind of talked into the coral beauty...my gut told me to wait because the rank is so new... but we learn as we go...the hard way sometimes...

Tank is 80 gallon btw... and yes I know about the tang rules... but my daughter is 4 and had to have "dori" there is a long term plan for her to go to a 180 a friend of mine has.

 

[ryan_ferguson25]

I have read a lot about QT...and not sure I'll ever add another fish before a QT perioD.

 

[2smokes]

I think its ich.It appears when the fish are stressed but can dissapear on its own next day.You wont see the white spots on your fish but they still have the parasite.

 

[nereefpat]

LFS suggested raising tank temp to 80 degrees,

Tank is 80 gallon btw... and yes I know about the tang rules... but my daughter is 4 and had to have "dori" there is a long term plan for her to go to a 180 a friend of mine has.

Raising temp is a fallacy in saltwater.

Too late now, but a yellow tail damsel (Chrysiptera parasema) is a good alternative

 

[ryan_ferguson25]

I think its ich.It appears when the fish are stressed but can dissapear on its own next day.You wont see the white spots on your fish but they still have the parasite.

I agree I think it is too...with the lights on now they have just a few spots. I'm going to ride it out for a couple days. I have a QT plan ready if needed.

 

[heathlindner25]

I agree I think it is too...with the lights on now they have just a few spots. I'm going to ride it out for a couple days. I have a QT plan ready if needed.

So if they have spots...What exactly are you waiting for? The gills to get a little more infested and heavy breathing?

 

[noob916]

What kind of treatment will you use to treat ICH?

 

[Betaktical]

But if his fish already have ich it won't do any good to qt. the parasite is already in the tank. Unless you just stay with the fish you have for a while till they either die or develop immunity you can't add more fish


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[ryan_ferguson25]

I'm going to LFS tonight to discuss treatment although again nothing this morning on anyone.
No abnormal behavior and everyone eating well.

 

[nereefpat]

But if his fish already have ich it won't do any good to qt. the parasite is already in the tank.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You can always qt. The fish will have to be treated, then sit in qt until the required fallow period has been reached in the display.