Interesting read

Haha I'll be in them still at times.been so busy though.my last day was ffm and I've gotten OT every week but 2 since I started.they're keeping me busy.
 
Interesting read man...of all the times I've hung out at the shop I've seen a lot of this type of behavior from customers....heck...I've even seen a kid puke all over the floor and the entire family just leave....then come back 20 minutes later after it was all cleaned up, nothing to do with reefing, but a testimate that people want their problems cleaned up for free :).

It's a tough world with all the ease of online shopping and massive amounts of data out there. We've become an electronic world and a NOW type of society.

For me, I enjoy the experience of hanging out at a shop, shooting the bull and talking reef with random people and the employees. They are the only people who actually "get you" when you get excited about nearing the end of the nitrogen cycle or that you sprouted a new polyp of some fancy nancy zoa...your buddy Billy/Sally could care less, lol.

Am I guilty of online shopping...absolutely, i'll be the first to admit it. Theres just some things that LFS dont stock or cannot get. But for the basic bread and butter stuff I'm there.

P.S. yes...Ryan is the $@/!
 
Interesting article .....

I agree with the characterizations the author makes (we've both 'seen' and 'been' some of those customers :)), but I fundamentally disagree with the underlying premise that the LFS somehow 'deserves' to survive. I'm neither trying to be heartless nor cavalier because I understand that people's livelihoods are involved, but I'm just not convinced that the LFS is a sustainable entity anymore. I have also read very similar articles about other industries - very similar! I'm a big audio/video enthusiast, and some years ago an industry magazine ran a series of articles lamenting the demise of the specialty audio salon - and used many of the same arguments that this article did. Human behavior is human behavior; its not changing.

It's a fact I'm afraid, nostalgia aside, that forms of commerce do get replaced with 'better' things. The buggy whip manufacturers went out of business because people started driving cars. The local butcher (largely) went out of business because of Wal-Mart of Stu Leonard's. Borders closed in my town because they could no longer compete with Amazon. Likewise with Tower Records. On and on.

Absolutely support your local retailers. I'm just not sure, in the long run, that it's going to make much difference as I think the LFS is doomed. Maybe the best ones will survive, but most will not. When you can get better selection and price online, with increasingly expedited shipping (one day; same day form Amazon) the LFS really has no chance. For me, its a bit like buying CDs (yeah, I'm old) - used to buy 50:50, bricks versus clicks. Now, 100% clicks. I do still buy some fish from one LFS, and coral frags from another, but most now online. I buy all my equipment and supplies online.

Unless the LFS can demonstrate value (that other industries have not been able to do) in different ways, the future is dim I'm sorry to say.

Addendum: about 8 years ago I was looking to do something different with my career and I spent some time putting together a business plan (I'm both a financial and manufacturing guy) for an aquarium business. I really wanted to do it, but as hard as I tried I could not get the economics to work. Even if it's a passion, unless you're extraordinarily lucky, you ultimately have to do something else to pay the bills (like becoming a plumber :().
 
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The audio business is the first thing i thought of when reading this as well. This has happened to many other industries and it the end the customer is better off because of it. As much as I want the local LFS to survive I agree with Simon that it is an uphill battle. As a kid i could spend all day at a local fish store in rumia Poland. It was one of my favorite things to do. I wish there were more LFS around.... but I know that as time goes on there will be less and less. If a place like Puppy center & Aquarium can't survive then the LFS future looks bleak.
 
Cant judge it by puppy center the owner made bad decisions. If that didnt happen that place would be off the hook but crap happens
 
I have a little knowledge of the daily cost of a LFS. It is very expensive to run all that equipment and tie up money in live goods that have no guarantee to survive. I also agree that it is very hard to compete with online/big box stores. Most LFS can not get products on their shelves for anywhere near the price the products are shipped to your door. What is do like is that you are able to see the fish or coral in person. No weird Photoshop pics in a LFS. I like that you can see the fish eat or look for any unusual issues. Yes, equipment is usually cheaper online, I agree completely. I wish that LFS could complete on a more even playing field. In CT it seems like more stores are popping up everywhere. This is good because it gives customers options but it's bad because it's spreading out the money.
 
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