Is 120" long rimless possible?

pclausen

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Being that a rimless tank has no center support, would a 120" long tank be possible, or is 96" about as long as you can go?

I have room for a 120 long x 30 wide x 24 tall

Alternatively, I'd go 96 long x 40 wide x 24 tall.

Assume 3/4" starfire on front and sides.

Thanks!
 
Certainly it is possible. When I was at the public aquarium last week end I saw a 5 foot tall glass wall that was about 16 feet wide. The glass (not Plexi) was about 4 inches thick. I'll bet that with 1.5" glass it could be done. Yikes that would be heavy and expensive!
 
I want to stay with 3/4" starfire. That stuff is about $30 a sq. I'd hate to think how much 1"+ would run a foot.

I was going to have someone like A.G.E. built it for me. I'll be contacting them, I was just curcious if anyone has or has seen a 3/4" rimless longer that 96".
 
While I am quite new to the rimless stuff, I have just this week ordered my newest tank, a rimless, starphire x3 sides 90g from a LFS. What I found in ordering mine is that since the longest I could fit is 60", the tallest possible is 20".

I would think there is an aspect ratio tank builders (rimless, braceless) stick to whereby the longer the front panels are, it may limits the height in which tank builders will build to. Tank width may also be a factor.
 
3/4" starfire will not be enough for a rimless IMO. Your tank will bow badly and eventually will lead to the streams breaking apart...


Doubt you will find any tank maker willing to make the rimless for you with that thin glass
 
I agree with Ed Reef. I have a 60" long with Eurobracing and the front and back are 5/8". I would think that 1-1/2" at the least for a 120 rimless. Best bet it to talk to a manufacturer (and make sure it's a reputable one that has built rimless for a while).
 
Why not just settle for a eurobrace? My Leemar I have sitting around is eurobrace, and it looks nice and neat. My 112g 36x36x20 was .75" acrylic and it still bowed.
 
Well, I'm going for a really modern/stylish kind of look, with corners like these:

eloscorner.jpg


I'll talk to some tank builders to see what the limits are. I would be ok with a couple of sleek thin aluminum square rods that would "snap" onto the front and back glass top edges to prevent bowing. I suppose going thicker on the glass would be a possiblity as well.

I'm going to a look similar to this one, but without the metal bracing if possible and raised on a metal stand covered with tinted glass:

german.jpg
 
I spoke w/ A.G.E. and here are some interesting facts:

* 3/4" glass (starfire or regular) is the thickest stock available to them

* 130" is the max starfire lenght available

* 72" long = 30" max height rimless

* 96" long = 18" max height rimless

So it looks like I have to give up on the idea of a completely rimless design. They can do a 120" x 30" x 30" no problem as long I go with a stainless steel trim "cap" at the top.

Decisions, decisions...
 
The steel cap would be LESS sightly than a eurobrace, IMO.

Im pretty sure Elos is the only company with the corners like that. Its around $6000 for the tank and stand of the System 160 XL IIRC, which is 60x31x~24 (200g).
 
Damn... I saw this thread and were hoping they could do it for ya!

With that said, I have seen AGEs "steel cap" and for the size tank you're looknig into it would be of minimal inconveniance in regards to light interference and aesthetics.
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15238369#post15238369 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jflip2002
Im pretty sure Elos is the only company with the corners like that.
The corners on my rimless AGE are identical...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15237853#post15237853 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pclausen
I spoke w/ A.G.E. and here are some interesting facts:

* 3/4" glass (starfire or regular) is the thickest stock available to them

* 130" is the max starfire lenght available

* 72" long = 30" max height rimless

* 96" long = 18" max height rimless

So it looks like I have to give up on the idea of a completely rimless design. They can do a 120" x 30" x 30" no problem as long I go with a stainless steel trim "cap" at the top.

Decisions, decisions...


Peter - just for info, the tank picture you show does used eurobracing..... IMO, tank that size best to have some sort of eurobracing or steel trims. Either way will still look great as the size of such tank is usually overwhelming that people don't even notice your top


:D
 
I think you guys are right. I spoke with John @ Kingfish (AGE dealer), and for a tank this size, it would be wrapped in 1 1/4" powdercoated black steel around the top and bottom. I agree that given the overall size, that trim would "disappear" when stepping back and taking in the whole tank.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15228755#post15228755 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pclausen
Well, I'm going for a really modern/stylish kind of look, with corners like these:

eloscorner.jpg


I'll talk to some tank builders to see what the limits are. I would be ok with a couple of sleek thin aluminum square rods that would "snap" onto the front and back glass top edges to prevent bowing. I suppose going thicker on the glass would be a possiblity as well.

I'm going to a look similar to this one, but without the metal bracing if possible and raised on a metal stand covered with tinted glass:

german.jpg

Hey Peter do you have any other info on this large tank? It looks awesome.
Thanks,
Doug
 
This was at aquarium illusions for many years and was built by concept aquariums ( sponser of the site)

120" x 36" x 24"

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