is a mixed reef really possible?

supertech99

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So I recently started upgrading my tank to keep sps. New rock, new lights new skimmer, new powerheads. My water has never been cleaner, and my sps are going great.....but the growth in my softies has stopped totally, but they still looked good! I recently added a new powerhead and have started to notice some of my zoas actually receeding. Would too much flow cause them to start "melting" as they have been known to do? I dont want to lose them. Should I just try to move them?
 
A mixed reef is possible, but there is a fine line between great sps color and softie recession... here is a pic of my old 125 gallon mixed reef..
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I had to keep the water a little bit more dirty to keep the lps and softies happy.
 
if it were me i'd figure out if they were fine before i added the stronger flow,if so then try moving them to a slower moving area of the tank or try placing rock to force the flow off its mark a bit,also if you can point the power heads in a different spot that should work,remember the flow easily bounces off anything,might take a bit of working but its possible
 
Mixed reef works great for me, but as said above, the water needs to be kept a little dirty for everyone to be happy. There is a fine line that you have to hover.
 
+1 zoas and most softies tend to like the water a little dirty, so make sure your not completely stripping the system for the SPS. You've got to find that sweet spot that keeps everyone happy. Good luck!
 
A mixed is possible. I have a massive Mumps Leather, xenia galore, GPS's a gigantic frogspawn and hammer as well as some Massive SPS colonies. all seem to grow in harmony unless you let them get too close to each other.
 
+1 on Rhett's solution. In fact, I will use this argument after our move back to Virginia...Tank for SPS, tank for softies, tank for seahorses (My wife would like one).....I see endless possibilities.
 
IME, zoanthids can absolutely melt away under a chemical warfare attack or starvation. However if you've been adding items and haven't been properly quarantining them, you could have introduced one of the common zoanthid eating pests like sundial snails or nudibranchs.

Regarding "mixed reef" tanks -- mixing a bunch of softies together is also a "mixed reef." Categories like softie, LPS and SPS are vague, invented labels that bear little relation to the care required for a particular coral. A deep water brown discosoma mushroom has entirely different light and flow needs than a Lobophyton leather coral that lives in shallow lagoons. The so-called SPS are more homogeneous in their care requirements than the other arbitrary groups, but they are still not all the same and they will absolutely war with each other.

If you want optimum growth, health and color, you keep a species specific tank. (Actually there are probably companion groupings that will produce better results, but I don't think anyone has done any real research on that.) Most of us don't want to keep just one species, and even a biotype tank is difficult to put together without breaking type. Nor is rampant growth always a good thing unless you are farming corals.

On the other end of the spectrum, it's possible to keep many different species in a tank, but you'll see sub-par health, growth and/or color and will likely lose some weak specimens from time to time. These tanks are more susceptible to crashes and coral disease outbreaks because everything is just getting by.

In general, if you don't want to keep one species or biotope, keep groups of animals which primarily thrive in the same kinds of conditions -- light, flow, water chemistry, turbidity, etc. Once you get things stabilized for the bulk of the creatures, there's always a nook or cranny that has different conditions in which you can place an odd coral.

If the goal is to keep SPS, you are probably better off removing most if not all of your softies -- particularly small specimens or colonies which will be more vulnerable -- or starting a second tank.
 
On the other end of the spectrum, it's possible to keep many different species in a tank, but you'll see sub-par health, growth and/or color and will likely lose some weak specimens from time to time. These tanks are more susceptible to crashes and coral disease outbreaks because everything is just getting by.

I dont think this statement is entirely true. I have kept a mixed tank for many years. yes, while one coral may wage war and take out another, every specimen in my tank seems healthy and is exhibiting growth. From the gold Palys to the GSP, to the frogspawn to the stylapora which has grown almost 2" in the last 6 months. Heck, I even have a BTA that has split 4 times since I got it 2 years ago. Some exhibit more growth than others, and some you can see grow in cycles (slow growth followed by rapid growth)

This is good discussion and there will be many opinions. In my own experience a mixed tank is entirely possible.
 
I have for the time being shut off both powerheads as i fear i may have too much direct flow. If they open tomorrow (a 50 polyp colony of eagle eyes and a 25 polyp colony of green bay packers) ill know its the flow not the water. What should be good flow for a 75? I am thinking of selling the koralia 4 and the mj mod and getting 2 koralia 2's or 3's......what do you guys think? I am running a mag 5 right now for return.
 
Supertech, I have a 1000gph loop and a Mag 9.5 on my tank. now I havent gotten into the zooanthid craze, but that is the flow in my tank. im somewhere close to a 20x turn over.
 
its the flow.....they already started to open more....now how to fix the issue. between the maximod and the korilia 4 i had 3300gph, plus what ever the return was adding so i am guessing at a solid 3500 which is 46x turn over...now that i look at the numbers it seems very high and kinda dumb for a mixed tank. I was thinking 2k3's would be about 22x turnover without my return. It also occoured to me that 4 small powerheads like these http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merc...ROD&Product_Code=LC-WM015&Category_Code=RESUN
while ugly may create more random flow than 2 powerheads alone. So what do you guys think?
anyone want to trade some powerheads? hehehe
 
Yeah, it's likely not so much the amount of flow, but rather the type of flow. Gentle indirect flow does not necessarily mean low flow.
 
Yep, Vortechs all the way. They will provide a more broader flow that your corals will enjoy. They can easily be tuned and adjusted for your corals. I'll never go back to koralias or the like. On your tank one MP40 should be just fine.
 
If you can move them around a bit until you find a spot that agrees with them. I would'nt lower the flow in the tank.

Nice post Nicole!
 
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