Is it wrong to say that tangs are ich magnets?
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kau_cinta_ku
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the reason ppl say that is because tangs seem to be more likely to get ich over most other fish.
Would my baby clowns be ok with a baby tang?
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kau_cinta_ku
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not in a 55 gal. tank. IMO no tang would be able to live it's full life in a 55 gal.
kau_cinta_ku
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also am I reading this correct, you have 9 clowns in a 55 gal. tank?
Check out the bonaire.com reef camera site and just watch on 3 min refresh for a day or 3.
You'll find that everybody lives on a cliff, far from the sand. Most fish have homes in the rock and don't travel far from them.
And then there are the traveling fish: you'll occasionally (outside of the occasional oblivous skinnydipping people---this has happened.
) see big groups of tangs going ninety per straight up, or straight down, midwater, never-ever near the sand or the rock except to nip a bit of algae.
These fish are evolved to midwater, long-distance traveling. They have extremely thin, scaleless skin and no slime coat to speak of.
That renders them tremendously vulnerable to the ich parasite nature never designed them to meet: ich lives in sand and rock, between fish, and like ticks or fleas, looks for a ride. On fish blood-fluids, it multiplies, and on tang blood, it probably gets a high quality dose, because tangs are hyped on oxygen: they take it in like a ram jet. So they multiply like crazy. The tang has no protective slime coat. And the tang may die, but the ich will just drift down to sand and rock again and wait for the next victim.
You quarantine to protect your rock and sand. Once it becomes a launch pad for ich, you've got a problem.
Sanddwelling fish usually don't get ich: handle them and you'll think you have a handful of jello--the slime coat is that thick. Water conditions that erode the slime coat can cause them to get ich, but usually, ich can't attack them successfully.
That's the difference.
HTH.
You'll find that everybody lives on a cliff, far from the sand. Most fish have homes in the rock and don't travel far from them.
And then there are the traveling fish: you'll occasionally (outside of the occasional oblivous skinnydipping people---this has happened.
) see big groups of tangs going ninety per straight up, or straight down, midwater, never-ever near the sand or the rock except to nip a bit of algae.These fish are evolved to midwater, long-distance traveling. They have extremely thin, scaleless skin and no slime coat to speak of.
That renders them tremendously vulnerable to the ich parasite nature never designed them to meet: ich lives in sand and rock, between fish, and like ticks or fleas, looks for a ride. On fish blood-fluids, it multiplies, and on tang blood, it probably gets a high quality dose, because tangs are hyped on oxygen: they take it in like a ram jet. So they multiply like crazy. The tang has no protective slime coat. And the tang may die, but the ich will just drift down to sand and rock again and wait for the next victim.
You quarantine to protect your rock and sand. Once it becomes a launch pad for ich, you've got a problem.
Sanddwelling fish usually don't get ich: handle them and you'll think you have a handful of jello--the slime coat is that thick. Water conditions that erode the slime coat can cause them to get ich, but usually, ich can't attack them successfully.
That's the difference.
HTH.
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13114371#post13114371 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Sk8r
Check out the bonaire.com reef camera site and just watch on 3 min refresh for a day or 3.
You'll find that everybody lives on a cliff, far from the sand. Most fish have homes in the rock and don't travel far from them.
And then there are the traveling fish: you'll occasionally (outside of the occasional oblivous skinnydipping people---this has happened.
These fish are evolved to midwater, long-distance traveling. They have extremely thin, scaleless skin and no slime coat to speak of.
That renders them tremendously vulnerable to the ich parasite nature never designed them to meet: ich lives in sand and rock, between fish, and like ticks or fleas, looks for a ride. On fish blood-fluids, it multiplies, and on tang blood, it probably gets a high quality dose, because tangs are hyped on oxygen: they take it in like a ram jet. So they multiply like crazy. The tang has no protective slime coat. And the tang may die, but the ich will just drift down to sand and rock again and wait for the next victim.
You quarantine to protect your rock and sand. Once it becomes a launch pad for ich, you've got a problem.
Sanddwelling fish usually don't get ich: handle them and you'll think you have a handful of jello--the slime coat is that thick. Water conditions that erode the slime coat can cause them to get ich, but usually, ich can't attack them successfully.
That's the difference.
HTH.
You got my vote for most informative post of the day!:eek2:
oh, BTW here is the link to the Bonaire Reef Cams
Thanks, Aprosody. I love watching that site: you can learn more in 3 days of tuning it in intermittently and id'ing the species than you can gather from watching fish in a tank.
The site is www.breathebonaire.com ---and wouldn't you know it, today they're having cam problems and it's frozen: but bookmark it and check it out.
one of the most interesting things was watching a hurricane sweep through it last year. And people wonder if corals can survive a 3-day darkness. Yep.
world's biggest fish tank when the camera's online.
PS: if it's black, it's either after sundown there or the camera's offline.
The site is www.breathebonaire.com ---and wouldn't you know it, today they're having cam problems and it's frozen: but bookmark it and check it out.
one of the most interesting things was watching a hurricane sweep through it last year. And people wonder if corals can survive a 3-day darkness. Yep.
world's biggest fish tank when the camera's online.
PS: if it's black, it's either after sundown there or the camera's offline.
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13114371#post13114371 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Sk8r
Check out the bonaire.com reef camera site and just watch on 3 min refresh for a day or 3.
You'll find that everybody lives on a cliff, far from the sand. Most fish have homes in the rock and don't travel far from them.
And then there are the traveling fish: you'll occasionally (outside of the occasional oblivous skinnydipping people---this has happened.
These fish are evolved to midwater, long-distance traveling. They have extremely thin, scaleless skin and no slime coat to speak of.
That renders them tremendously vulnerable to the ich parasite nature never designed them to meet: ich lives in sand and rock, between fish, and like ticks or fleas, looks for a ride. On fish blood-fluids, it multiplies, and on tang blood, it probably gets a high quality dose, because tangs are hyped on oxygen: they take it in like a ram jet. So they multiply like crazy. The tang has no protective slime coat. And the tang may die, but the ich will just drift down to sand and rock again and wait for the next victim.
You quarantine to protect your rock and sand. Once it becomes a launch pad for ich, you've got a problem.
Sanddwelling fish usually don't get ich: handle them and you'll think you have a handful of jello--the slime coat is that thick. Water conditions that erode the slime coat can cause them to get ich, but usually, ich can't attack them successfully.
That's the difference.
HTH.
AWSOME INFO thanks!
kau_cinta_ku
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not to start an arguement, but those clowns I beleive were all juvies just born (not sure if by the owner or another) but very soon they will start killing them off 1x1. just because someone else does it still don't mean that it is the right way.
again not tring to sound mean or start an arguement.
rkelman
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Actually they are almost 3. I wonder if it has to do with the amount of BTA's she has... Either way its not recommended especially for a beginning reefer. She is very experienced and raised those clowns herself. That is also a 210g tank. Time will tell when they start breeding if they will start to fight bad.
singold
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BTW, I think that's why its good to have a cleaner shrimp in tank to help keep tang free of parasites. My cleaner shrimp seems intent on constantly cleaning my tang and the tang stays in one place to allow it. Another good symbiotic relationship that can be duplicated in a home aquarium.
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