Is my BTA doing ok? (pics)

[cmiani2002]

Not so sur ethe anemone is doing that good....

Did not accept food in 3 or 4 days, mouth seems wide open, it was all the way int the back of the tank, atached to the back of some rocks, but is was opening regularly and taking food.
This morning it is hanging on the back wall of the tank, and it just doesn seem too good to me, hopefully i am wrong.
The anemone has been in the tank a little over 2 weeks.
I fed it pretty much every other day, pieces of frozen raw shrimp and some mysis shrimps.

Should I just wait it out, and not worry so much??

this is where it was used to be, closed unfortunately.....

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This is today:
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Thank for all the input....

 

[hansonfam]

We'll something is definetly up with it. It is seriously bleached now. What are you water params? Is this the tank that has only been set up since Nov? If so you should have waited about 3 or 4 more months as that tank is to new. But to little to late now
He is really bleached and needs food and light. Give us you water params and what lights you have and we will see if we can help you out.But it is not looking good and with its mouth open that is not a good thing


Lisa

 

[cmiani2002]

Ok, i was reading the Anemone FAQ and yes,there is something bothering this anemone....

Anyway, parameter have been relatively stable all along.
As of today:

Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 15ppm
PH 8.2
Temp 77- 78
Calcium 400

what did i left out????

 

[seaduck]

looks bleached...How long has the clown been with it? U might want to separate them until u can nurse the nem back to health.....feeding it is good....pls post h20 params so the experts can help u out.

 

[hansonfam]

What lights are on that tank? Temp could stand to come up abit. YOu will get mixed opinions on that though. I have kept mine at 80 for a year and all has been good. Do you test for dkh with the calcium?
I dunno what i have you been feeding it?
I would try again with very,very small pieces of silverside. LIke the size of a pencil eraser and see if it will eat. If not leave it be and see what it does. If it looks like it has string coming out of its mouth or it starts to disenegrate in anyway get it out asap as it will foul the tank quickly

Lisa

 

[hansonfam]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9231553#post9231553 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by seaduck
looks bleached...How long has the clown been with it? U might want to separate them until u can nurse the nem back to health.....feeding it is good....pls post h20 params so the experts can help u out.

Very good point about the clown. Can you put the clown somewhere else for a little while.

 

[cmiani2002]

Lights are 2 CF 36W each.... white and blue
I fed it frozen shrimps and Mysis

 

[seaduck]

what about alk??

 

[cschweitzer]

His ph is okay, so I would assume his alk is alright. What salinity? I like my temperature at 80-82. He is definitely bleached out, but still looks fairly healthy and it is possible to bring him back. Once the mouth starts unraveling(i.e. spitting up its guts) and/or once the foot will not stick, it is pretty much a goner.

I like grating frozen fish foods like squid, clam, oyster, shrimp, etc. that you can buy at a grocery store. These work very vell for food. Maybe add some potassium iodide to raise your iodine level(to the water not the food). Maybe add garlic extreme to the food, as it is an immunity builder and makes the food taste italian to the anems...they seem to love it(to the food, not the water). Also add selcon for omega-3 fatty acids(again, to the food, not the water). Are the tentacles sticky? A way to teste is put a turkey baster next to it with food in it. Touch the tentacles and see if they grab the baster...a healthy one will. If so, drop some food on the tentacles and when it is hungry it will eat.

Taking away the clown will reduce its stress also. Some other things:
Do not feed during the daytime...feed as the lights are going out when actinics are on or when the lights go out.
Do not feed it in high flow...reduce or stop flow for 15 minutes-1/2hour so that it has time to get the food down.

 

[raoul]

His ph is okay, so I would assume his alk is alright.

Not always a safe assumption. My ph is typically 8.2 but my alk is usually low and my calc. through the roof (been working on this). I think in cases like this all readings should be posted. Just my thoughts though.

I wouldn't necessarily write off a nem if the foot doesn't attach, but maybe in combination with expelling its stomach I would.

I'm curious about your suggestion to not feed the nem during the day, but whole heartedly agree with turing off the flow for a little while. Why don't you feed during the day? I used to feed my nems before lights out, but changed that recently. Now I feed during the day. I have a suspision that the night time cleaners have harrassed one of my nems a time or two, so I changed feeding times to give the nems more time to digest before the night time guys come out to play. If I'm doing something terrible, I'd like to know before it's too late

 

[cmiani2002]

A few hours later....

Now the anemone is hanging on some rocks , but the mouth is closed, stil bleached, but doesn look like it is gasping for ....well..water.
My Alk is way out of wack, seem like, hopefully i done it correctly but is shows me a reading of 5.49....

Shouldn't it be at 2.9 or so?

If correct..how do i bring it down??

 

[cmiani2002]

Next day


today the anemone is clinging on the back of the tank pretty much defalted and seems like slumping on the rocks.
Yesterday I tought it was goign to revive, I even managed to feed it a small piece of shrimp.
This whole deal is stressing me out....cannot figure what is wrong with my system...
Alk is at 4.7
Ph 8.2
WHAT CAN I DO??
Anyone in So Cal,possibly orange county willing to help?

 

[reefinnewb]

Well if you fed it shrimp yesterday and it took it it may just be expelling waste. It took mine awhile to start feeding, even bleached a little. It then managed to get sucked into a covered seio and ripped up pretty good. That was two weeks ago and it is eating great and looking much better. Moral of the story, hang in there, if your params are stable and within check it should be ok.

 

[Nikon_Guy]

The following is a quote from Bob Fenner, a marine biologist that forgot more about anemones than I will ever know. HTH...

Underfeed, underfeed, don't feed! Underfeed, underfeed, don't feed! Most losses in captive systems are the result of over-feeding. How many more times do I feel I need to write this? Bunches! Some anemones have been kept for YEARS without any intentional external feeding. Know your stock! Many anemones (especially larger species) are detritivorous (a polite term meaning they eat poop), planktivorous, and largely chemoautotrophic/photosynthesizing species/individuals that hobbyists try to over-stuff with meaty/prepared foods. My bid for largest cause of loss of anemones is the consequences (lack of oxygen, hydrogen and other sulfide production...) from over-feeding. Cut it out! Within normal temperatures and other conditions, most can and do do well on weekly feedings. If you're going on vacation, leave them alone.

For almost all varieties kept, an occasional (weekly or so) perfusion (wash?) of live brine shrimp, prepared mash of frozen or dried food, or frappe' (as in with your blender) of "fresh" marine food meant for human consumption (shellfish, shrimp, langouste, not-so-oily fish) with or without supplementation. Temporarily turn off your particulate filters and squirt the food onto their tentacular surface.