Is my clownfish ok?

creditgirl

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We just started a salt water tank about 1 1/2 months ago. We added in three damsels and they are fine, but our clown fish (added 1 1/2 weeks ago) is just laying down on the bottom of the tank; sometimes on his side. If you go over to him and put your finger on the tank where he is, he jumps up and swims. Is this normal behavior? He didn't start doing this until 2 days ago.
 
No, its not breathing fast, but we haven't seen him eat very much. He'll put it in his mouth and then spit it out. We don't have an anenome yet, could that be the problem?
 
Do you have a quarentine tank set up? How long has he not been eatting?

Seet up a qt tank and treat him with maracyn two for salt water. Double the dose. (so if its a ten gal qt 2 tabs the first day, 1 tab a day for the rest of treatment)

Are there any other signs? Peeling skin, fungus, swelled face, white spots....

Please describe anything you see and it'll help. Sounds like maracyn two will help him out without knowing more./

Dont use ANY medications in your reef.
 
The most important information needed, I’m surprised no one has asked, is what are your water parameters.

Please provide readings for Ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, salinity and temperature to start. This may help identify the problem.
 
No quarentine set up. We've only been at this for about 1 1/2 months. I'm really not sure if he was eating in the beginning (we've had him about 1 1/2 weeks), but when he started acting weird we started paying more attention and noticed he didn't appear to be eating.

I just checked on the white spots, and he does have a couple teeny tiny little white specks.
 
If ammonia and nitrites are at zero there would have to be at least trace amounts of nitrates present. Unless of course you just did a massive waterchange or you just put fish in the tank today.

The test results are a bit suspect here. When did you preform the last test and what brand of tests are being used?
 
i think it s beyond your water conditions, esp since other fish are ok.

try getting some live brime shrimp to induce feeding. if not, i would have to agree with tourkids recommendations. if its a wild caught clownfish, chances are you have to pursue more aggressive treatments.
 
On Sunday we did a 7-8% water change. The tests were conducted yesterday and we have a saltwater master test kit. It can't be that, because all the other fish are perfectly fine.

It is a captive bred and raised clown.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8460776#post8460776 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by embryoguy
i think it s beyond your water conditions, esp since other fish are ok.

try getting some live brime shrimp to induce feeding. if not, i would have to agree with tourkids recommendations. if its a wild caught clownfish, chances are you have to pursue more aggressive treatments.

I don't agree. Damsels will live through tank conditons that many other fish cannot.
 
This is a bit frustrating. I'm worried about my fish and it seems as though people just want to argue back in forth.

My tank conditions are perfect, we understand perfectly how to do that portion of taking care of the tank. Every other critter in the tank is very healthy and happy.
 
tourkid is giving you the best advise.

its hard for others to speculate on possible treatment without a pic.
 
Since I don't have a equipment for a quarintine tank to set one up can I treat with the Maracyn in my 38 gal. since I do not have any coral? Will it hurt the other fish/invertibrates if I do that?
 
If you don't know the fish is eating, I would also make certain that the fish is eating...

What have you been feeding? I have a picky clown that won't eat anything that is large at all. It will just spit it out.

It loves daphnia, brine shrimp and some spirulina flake. Maybe try soaking your foods in garlic too.

FWIW, I would treat your tank(if you feel it necessary) with maracyn... though that is out of my realm of expertise.
 
Loss of appetite and lethargy w/o any external signs are probably either a bacterial infection (what I've had to deal with for 3 clowns in the past month) or an internal parasite. Here's what I did to fix it.

Go to Petco and buy the 10g fish starter kit, then head over to the LFS and buy 15g of water, while you're there pick up Maracyn II (fresh or salt it doesn't matter).and Jungle Labs Parasite Clear The only difference between the FW and the SW version of Maracyn II by Mardel is the SW has some B complex vitamins to stimulate appetite and more importantly the SW version has 20mg of Minocycline Activity vs. the 10mg in the FW version.

Anyway, bring that mess home, set it up, get it up to temp, check the parameters, acclimate the fish, toss in EITHER two FW tabs of Maracyn II or one SW tab of Maracyn II. Give it 24 hours, do a water change of a couple of gallons, toss in the next dose, lather rinse repeat for 3 or 4 days. You'll know when the clown is better. Also, while you're at it, pick up some Cyclopeeze and try scraping a teeny bit off to feed after the first 24 hours.

The Maracyn II will take care of gram negative bacterial infections - don't use Maracyn 1 that treats gram positive - beneficial bacteria - like the stuff that builds up in your tank to help process ammonia, nitrites, etc.

Also, while the poor guy is in QT, you can hit it with a Jungle Labs Parasite Clear - has praziquantel among other things and should take care of most internal parasites (not so sure about external parasites). I successfully dosed both the Maracyn II and the Parasite Clear on the first day w/ no ill effects to a True Perc. Lost the other two in QT because I had no idea what was happening to them.

As a side note, the 10g starter kit with the heater was about $49, the one w/o was about $39, and after you've bought them you'll have a QT you can use when you need it - also a very good idea.
Hope this helps!
 
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maracyn 2 saved my clown. it started with not showing intrest in food. then it wouldent swim, just laid on its side in the nem. then its cheeks swelled.. and by the time i got it in a qt it started to get fin rot.

It was a bacterial infection.

maracyn 2 has an appitite stimulant. but it'll probley take at least 3 days of treatment before it eats.

when starting your qt, use water from your tank to fill it.

when you add maracyn 2, the water will become bright yellow, thats good.
 
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