well i did add the charcoal and that really does help, i mean it still smells but not nearly as bad. thanks for the tip on that.
but here is the good news. day 14 of use and tested and finally 0 nitrates. and even better my DIY coil denitrator has finally started to cycle. (well the small one is, the bigger one still nothing) i am finally getting a reading of .25 ammonia 0 nitrites and 0 nitrates still. but i am finally seeing something happen with it. so i guess you can make them to big. lol