is this 9010 junk or is it just mine?

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I get some foam in the chamber but it don't even try to go up the neck.

the air adj. seems to do nothing (I did check the line)

I get nothing coming out from the output tube.

I get micro bubbles coming from the bottom of it.


and to add insult to it all I had a Red Sea air stone skimmer (90)
I paid 17 bucks for (and I bought it new) that worked so
good I had to empty the cup every other day sometimes
a day and a half....

It's in a low flow fuge/sump My return pump is pushing maybe
300GPH on a good day. The tank is a 37 gallon with a lot of stock
the sump/fuge is a 10 gallon tank with 3 glass baffles..

Any idea why this thing don't work?

I'm about to put it in the fireplace!
 
Ok, after a few hours of playing with it, it finally looks like it wants to skim for me...it got rid of the micro bubbles in the sump but now I have them in the display...anyone know why this thing would do this?
 
How long have you had it running? My 9015 works awesome...but it did take about 3 days for it to really start to pull junk out of tank...

Also...you probably did do this (I missed it the first time I put the "sump kit" on)...but did you put the little plastic insert that causes all the water to enter thought the fully open grates? and the last think...make sure you didn't push the riser tube too far into the unit...have read a couple of posts that people had done that...and it restricted the flow...

I am sure Roger will chime in soon and give some more ideas...but at least this is a start to look at...before he gets back on...

Greg
 
If you have bubbles coming out the bottom and nothing from the tube, the bottom square peice may be on wrong. It's tricky, I had mine running for a few days the wrong way- It should snap firmly and not move.

I notice you have the tube attached- Most of the water should come out the tube, with a small amount from the back, and none from anywhere else.

Can we maybe get a picture?

FWIW, my 9010 is anything but junk.
 
Thanks Greg, I do have that cover on(the back part of it too) the riser tube was pushed in a little to far (I had to work around my return pump) but I fixed that. should that grate be open or cosed?

It's only been in for about a day, I didn't expect to see anything in the cup, I did expect to see it try tho. (it's now doing that)

one thing that really bothers me is that I had to bring my water level as high as I did...I can do a mod on my return to suck air if my tank level drops but I'm still getting some micro bubbles in my tank.

Thanks again.

Ron
 
Grate should be open, that's where the water enters.

Where are the bubbles coming from? If from the riser tube, should be minimal bubbles if you play with the sponge?
 
Mark, here's the MB in action...It looks a lot worse in the pic but it might give you an idea of it..last night it was so bad one of my leathers (about the size of a big melon shrunk to the size of a baseball)

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/11216096@N00/2105712677/" title="DSC02019 by rvc03, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2270/2105712677_f16fe4f0bc.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="DSC02019" /></a>

the skimmer is also starting to skim,. sorry if I insulted anyone by calling it junk..I was up till almost 4am and I saw no hope for this thing until 10min before I walked away from it...

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/11216096@N00/2106491642/" title="DSC02016 by rvc03, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2007/2106491642_40ffc48459.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="DSC02016" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/11216096@N00/2106491732/" title="DSC02015 by rvc03, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2298/2106491732_fb57ed57e6.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="DSC02015" /></a>
 
Okay! I've had it with this thing...I'm sick of spending more time then it's worth. it started to skim today and now nothing! the water even stopped coming out of the riser tube and everything is "snapped" into place this by far is the worst skimmer I ever tried. My first and last tunze anything.
 
$349 plus tax I'm taking it back where I bought it.
What PO the most is all the research I wasted
my time with on this thing as well as the time spent
playing with it...It started to work good and then it
stopped just as fast..I would expect this out of a budget skimmer
over the years I've had well over 10 of them, this is not
the first or second skimmer I've had..And as far as the CS
go's I got ZIP as a mater of fact this is the email I got from
Rodger:

Re: 9010 skimmer

You are welcome, I read your posts and you seemed to not be the sort that wanted a solution rather you just wanted to gripe. Rather than ask for help you started out in attack mode. We sell thousands of these skimmers and the majority of people are very impressed and I use them myself. I wish you the best of luck, your basic problem is your sump is too small and it will be virtually impossible to incorporate a skimmer and not have bubbles picked up by the return pump as they are way to close together. I had this same issue on my first reef tank using a Red Sea Berlin and later a turboflotor. The problem is your sump and not the skimmer

__________________
Roger Vitko
Tunze USA


one thing I do not like is when someone passes the buck.
 
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Odd- Looking at those pictures, it doesn't look like much water is coming out of the riser tube. Again, I would guess that the bottom plate isn't on tight, which would cause water to be able to exit the bottom. The result would be a lot of bubbles in the sump, near the return pump, and poor skimming.

That... doesn't sound like the Roger I've talked to in the past. Is there a PM you sent him first?
 
This is the PM I sent after he never left any kind of response to my thread but seeing he was responding to others...even if he sent me a PM saying ron give me a few day to look into something for this (or something to that effect I would of got my cool back, this experience
with tunze really left a bad taste...

Mark that water coming from the riser tube was one of my issues with this I did make sure EVERYTHING was tight and snapped together..I think I have 30 days to return this so I'm going to put together a new sump just to prove a point..It's been running for two days now and I have less then 100 ML of skim I'd say about 75 and I see no bubbles on the inside walls of the cup..I've tried more air less air more water in the sump you name it.. anyway here the PM I sent to Roger yesterday:

9010 skimmer

Rodger,

About my 9010 It's going back, I want nothing to do
with it anymore.

It works and then it don't work it's put together
like a cheap snap together model. I really never been
so disappointed with anything I bought for my tank
like I am with this skimmer. If you're going to sell a
hi end product at top price it should have at least
some value. as far as I'm concerned this was a waste
of $350 that's a lot of money for a skimmer of this quality.

one more thing. I read here that this skimmer will work
in about 4 to 6 inches of water,,, Not true! as far as I can tell
it will only work if I have around 9" of water. aside from the
psychical water level in the sump and a slight air adj I feel
like I have no control over it's performance never mind the
fact that almost every time I pull this thing out the top snaps
off and then the pipe cover pops out (and yes it was "SNAPPED"
into place.

Thanks for the tunze experience,

Ron
 
Isn't this where the water line should be?

170133water-line.jpg
 
No, that's the "up to" line, from what I've read..They say this thing will work in 4" or so of water but anytime it's lower then 6 nothing comes out the drain and no mater how high the water line is (below the mark) the water comes out slow very slow, did I say slow?
 
BTW, this skimmer only looked that good for about 5 or 10 min ever since that pic the inside of the cup has no bubbles in it.
 
Just my 2 cents.
After waiting for the skimmer to break in (3-4 days) I had my 9010 working fine in 4.5" of water even before I put a sponge at the baffle between the drain from tank in my sump and the skimmer to eliminate the bubbles and turbulence. After doing that, it worked even better. I have found that there is a slightly improved performance since I increased the water level to about 7-8". I am very happy with the skimmer as now I am getting about 25-50ml of rich green skimmate each day-for a medium load 55 gallon, I think that is pretty good.

Also, your very first post on this thread attacks Roger and whomever could help you on this forum. I had similar problems but was polite about it. Yes, I was upset at first that I too paid $350 for the skimmer and was having problems. Roger was totally helpful and sent out a new part that I messed up and he did not even charge me for it. That is awesome service!!

Some of my problems with performance were also addressed in the manual. Food for thought-when you start by attacking rahter than seeking help for solutions, you come off as having an agenda to fulfill-which was to blast Tunze. You are vulnerable to have issues with any manufacturer but they will never get resolved by serving vinegar margaritas.
 
Re: is this 9010 junk or is it just mine?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11367301#post11367301 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RONCGIZMO
I get some foam in the chamber but it don't even try to go up the neck.

the air adj. seems to do nothing (I did check the line)

I get nothing coming out from the output tube.

I get micro bubbles coming from the bottom of it.


and to add insult to it all I had a Red Sea air stone skimmer (90)
I paid 17 bucks for (and I bought it new) that worked so
good I had to empty the cup every other day sometimes
a day and a half....

It's in a low flow fuge/sump My return pump is pushing maybe
300GPH on a good day. The tank is a 37 gallon with a lot of stock
the sump/fuge is a 10 gallon tank with 3 glass baffles..

Any idea why this thing don't work?

I'm about to put it in the fireplace!
Click to expand...

I'm sorry,

Please point out to me where I made any personal attacks here.
aside from the skimmer itself... was it the thing I said about the 17 dollar skimmer? that was 100% true I have a red sea 90 CC skimmer that I had on my 20g and used it on this tank until I bought the 9010 and aside from finding the right water level for it (and that's something you would expect with an air stone skimmer) it worked better. it was more consistent then the tunze. or was it the fact that I said I was going to toss it in the fireplace? cuz by 1:30 am I was ready to...I started to install this thing at 9PM or so and after 4 1/2 hours I was ripe! and I had every right to be the more I worked with it the more it felt like it was made in china not Germany
I didn't buy some 100 dollar skimmer I bought a 350 dollar skimmer that would not skim as well as a 17 dollar skimmer (or at least show me a sign that it will skim) I also don't think I was rude to anyone that chimed in...I was thankful that some did and they were also very helpful for me...I'm not going to deal with a company that has a guy on a forum for CS who will only answer post he feels are fluffy
enough for his tastes..I wanted to buy new power heads I have 3 MJ's and an AC with a wavemaster pro on them, I was going to step up to the plate and buy 2 or 3 tunze and a controller no way I'm doing that now, I'll buy 2 or 3 Sieo's or HK's and for around 50 bucks each I'll buy a spare and it's still less then one tunze...

Now I don't know about you but $350 is a lot of money for me and I had a lot of options at that price but at the same time I don't mind spending a little more for "the best" had this thing said JEBO on it and I paid a 100 buck I wouldn't care...you get what you pay for or at least I thought you did especially when is says Made in Germany.
 
Ron C - except for spelling his name wrong in the original e-mail, I have to agree that I have not seen anything wrong or inflammatory with your posts. Nothing that i wouldn't have felt / typed if I was in that situation anyway.

Good luck finding a new skimmer that works.
 
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