Is this a problem?

Randrew215

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I've made a couple of big changes in my tank the last couple of weeks. I started using a bubble magus dosing pump (which is awesome) and I epoxied in some SPS corals. I am an idiot and used the green and white epoxy stick instead of super glue gel, despite knowing that it would make my skimmer go berserk. Indeed, my skimmer has been going berserk since Thursday. I removed the collection cup so that I wasn't messing with the tank's oxygenation and am still waiting for the bubble frenzy to subside to be able to dial it back in. I'm doing small water changes daily (~5 gallons) to make sure nitrates are down. This being my first real run at SPS (except for a trial monti frag that has been growing the last few months) I'm not sure how to judge SPS health. Coloration is ~90 preserved, PE is great on some, minimal on others. Since epoxying in the frags on Thursday there are two things I have noticed:
1. All of my protopalythoa are cringing. They have become little puckered versions of their ugly brown selves. That's good because I hate them and have tried everything short of removing rock to eliminate them. They are in various locations around the tank and are all puckered. I have pink palys that are unaffected.
2. My euphyllia are acting crazy. Since I set my tank up my euphylllia have had fairly slow but constant growth patterns whereby large heads split to small heads which grow and divide. For the first time, multiple euphylllia are sprouting multiple heads off the sides. One torch is growing four heads out the base. I've never even had that happen once.
My parameters are pretty solid, but obviously I'm a little concerned because my skimmer is freaking out and my tank is acting abnormal. Do any of these sound like coal mine canary deaths or stress responses or do all of these changes sound like they are for the good? Should I be running a polyfilter along with my rox carbon and water changes until my skimmer gets back online? With so many changes going on, I'm being especially vigilant of my tank right now and I just want to be sure none of these things are indicative of a problem. Let me know what you think.
-Andy

Sg: 1.025
Ca: 410
Alk: 9.2
Mg: 1350
Nitrates: ~5 (I seem to have poor yellow discrimination, so I'm never totally confident in my nitrates)
pH: 8.2
Ammonia and phosphates: 0
 
Andy-

It sounds abnormal that your skimmer is still responding to the epoxy, and I suspect that something else is causing the issue. What type of skimmer are you running, and what exactly is it doing, overflowing?

Using PolyFilter and Carbon is always a good idea, especially in times like these when you aren't 100% sure if something in your water is causing harm to livestock. If you haven't changed them lately, now might be a good time.

I would recommend a watchful eye on your aquarium, and a decent sized water change certainly won't hurt anything. Nice pick-up on the BM doser, they are awesome!
 
Thanks Johnny,
I'm running an octo nw 200 skimmer. I'll do a larger water change today and I'll pick up some polyfilter tomorrow. I've never used it before because I feel like if one is using r/o water w/ 0 tds and a quality salt mix, there shouldn't be any heavy metal input to the tank. My understanding was that polyfilter removes heavy metal ions. I'll read up on it. When I use the epoxy (and when I've used it in the past) the tank water gets an acrid smell kind of like a burning. I can still smell it. I took my younger brother to the airport at 3:30 am and just broke out a red light head lamp to check out the tank. 5 different types of euphyllia are budding. I also changed the carbon and GFO two days ago (I need to get a second reactor b/c it's way too expensive to replace the GFO each week when I replace the carbon). Any other thoughts on if the euphyllia budding is a stress response?
 
I agree with everything JC posted.
Euphyllia budding isn't a response to stress but rather a response to good environmental conditions for them.

Epoxy is exponentially better when used in conjunction with superglue gel- you should never use one without the other except in rare cases.

What kind of saltmix are you using?

The mere mention of "heavy metals" makes me shudder.
Have you been searching up old posts?
 
I'm glad to hear that euphyllia budding is a good thing. I haven't been searching old posts- should I be? Salt mix is RC.

I changed another 25 gallons and added a polyfilter today. Protopaly are still scrunched up, skimmer is still bubbling too much to be able to dial it in at all, SPS corals are looking fair. I don't know what else to try right now.

I did notice today that my fat bicolor angelfish is going after my SPS polyps. I like him, but he's going to have to be evacuated. I put the net in the tank today and he hid in the rockwork while my brown powder tang swam in and out of the net. He's really skittish- I may need to go fishing.

Any other ideas on the skimmer or scrunched protopalys? It's been 96 hours and I've changed out 50 gallons in that time. Maybe I just need to give the polyfilter time to do its job? If the polyfilter starts to change color or things return to normalcy, I'll report.
 
my octo acts up sometimes i cant seem to figure out why, but all i have to do is adjust it so it skims normal then everything seems to get back to normal
 
My skimmer used to always go crazy for days after using epoxy. I stopped using it after it was found out that I was super allergic to it. I use reef glue now and acrylic rods and the skimmer issues does not occur anymore.
 
The euphylia are happy. Maybe the cut back in skimming left some organics for them to absorb. Mine do less well growthwise in very low nutrient water.

The epoxy shouldn't mess with your skimmer for more than a few hours or so ,ime. Maybe longer if a lot was used.
It also doesn't stick real well unless you dribble some crazy glue gel on it as Gary suggests.
 
Any other ideas on the skimmer or scrunched protopalys?
leave things alone. Stop changing carbon, stop changing polyfilter, stop changing out water. The skimmer should settle down and Protos should open up.

If skimmer settles down and Protos don't open make sure a fish isn't picking at them. Also make sure they're not getting too much water flow.
 
I just wanted to update and to say thank you for the input/advice. The skimmer is running normally and is dialed back in, protopalythoa are opened back up (for better or worse- scourge of my tank), and my first SPS corals are slowly coloring up!

I'm starting to study for my board exams that I'll take in June, which means tank maintenance will be an outlet for me and this should be a very stable few months for the tank. In the next couple of weeks I'll borrow a camera and start a thread to chart progress.
-Andy
 
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