Is this Epoxy Putty reef safe?

[stevedola]

I went to lowes today and they didnt carry the Harvey's or Aquamend epoxy. The only product they did carry that resembled reef epoxy was by Loctite. It does say marine grade but Im hesitant to use it. Has anyone used this product with success?

http://www.loctiteproducts.com/repairs.asp?qfid=8&Product=160

 

[ReefDoctorMicromussas]

NNOOOOOOOOO

see where it says Eye irratant LOL that also means "Kills your fish"

Must say water potable

 

[stevedola]

ok. I saw that and it raised a flag but sometimes these companies put warnings on packaging becaues of the fear of lawsuits. Thanks Doctor for the info Ill return it.

ps-the funny thing is that someone in DIY forum said they use it and have no ill effects.

 

[ReefDoctorMicromussas]

Its possible ... BUT I wouldnt begin to risk what I have... Water potable is safe for human water ie: reefs

If it will burn my eyes You know that our delicate reef creatures are gonna react like hell to it

 

[stevedola]

people are telling me that you see those warnings on all epoxy, even the "reef safe" items!!! If you look at the super glue we all use in our tanks, it says the same thing. I just dont want to have a tank meltdown because I tried.

It does say on the package that its "not for use on potable water systems".

 

[ReefDoctorMicromussas]

Like I said... its a $4.00 item that I dont risk my $10,000+ system on
Heck you probably can get away with it LOL You probably could could pour 10cc of motor oil in the tank and it would PROBABLY be OK.. But niether of us would? right?

Do what is right here protect your babies
go get :

Epoxy Made for potable water

same Isle .. Same cost...just go return it and pick it up
Oh and STOP sticking your tongue out at me

 

[stevedola]

youre right. ty for straightening me out--a good smack in the face helps sometimes.

 

[ReefDoctorMicromussas]

AAhhhh Hahhahahah no Problem

 

[stevedola]

I do reserve the right to change my mind ;-)


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Originally posted by stevedola
It does say on the package that its "not for use on potable water systems".
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Loctite is one of my companies very low cost competitors (we make epoxies too) so this is something I know quite a bit about. The "not for potable water systems" warning means that Loctite doesn't want to pay NSF for potable water approval testing which runs my company about $20,000 per product per year. Don't let the general warning scare you either. The unreacted chemicals in epoxies can cause chemical burns (polyamines are corrosive) but once the amines and the epoxy resin react completely, the cured product is chemically inert and won't harm your tank inhabitants. I wouldn't even think twice about using that, there is no such thing as epoxy specially formulated for reef aquariums.


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[SteveM10]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8980290#post8980290 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stevedola
ok. I saw that and it raised a flag but sometimes these companies put warnings on packaging becaues of the fear of lawsuits. Thanks Doctor for the info Ill return it.

ps-the funny thing is that someone in DIY forum said they use it and have no ill effects.

I use that exact epoxy in my tank and have had no problems at all. Just my 2 cents.

 

[ReefDoctorMicromussas]

Point Taken.. Like I said you PROBABLY CAN use that... I simply would not... WHY not just get the water potable?
I'll continue for the exact same price to use water potable epoxies... I believe Jen originally taght me that and so far it works... there are lots of reefers who use cheap salt, dont do water changes, let thier lights go years just because they still work... I'll follow the formula that so far has my tank shining

 

[tacocat]

I'd put myy money on the company that wants to spend the extra $20 clicks.

Seriously, I tried using an epoxy that I got at Lowes. It didn't adhere well, was slimy and made my skimmer go Ape, so I stuck with Aquamend. I don't use the TLF Aquastone for the same reason. Are they safe, probably, but in IME, they don't work as well.

 

[sufunk]

I just got some Aquamend by Polymeric systems, inc. from Home Depot. It has the same eye irritant warning.

Is this ok to use? I dont see anywhere where it says water potable?

Got the search button to work finally! Apparently, aquamend is fine Weird it has the same warning

 

[tacocat]

They list water tanks and fish boxes on their package though.

 

[Aliie]

I tried the Marineland Hold Fast and wasn't able to get it to band from rock to rock while wet, of course.
The directions said to dry area completely first. So how in the heck am I suposed to glue down new coral bases to the rocks already in the tank?

BTW my stuff says eye irritant and swallowing hazard too.

 

[ReefDoctorMicromussas]

Yes they all have that warning(even the water potables).... But basically water potable means that over time they are not leaching chemicals into the water