Is this ICH???????????

[Raven1770]

I have had one clown and one shark nose goby just die. My two fire fish are hiding and my other clown looks like this? I have a cardinal and chromis swimming fine and look normal so is my yellow clown goby and green goby. My carbs are fine along with my star. No corals just live rook, tank is about 5 months old. 36 gal

Please help

 

[Reefer54]

It is hard to see based on your pictures. I cant tell if your glass is hazy or the clown has miscoloration. Also, are the white specks on your glass or the clown?

Ich typically presents itself as white spots on the fish, often near the gills, mouth, and eyes, but not always.

Test all params....list those, they may help.

a uv sterilizer is a good means to help insure the best possible water quality and helps keep unwanted critters out.

I would not suggest adding anything if you have fish dying, but I believe that a cleaner shrimp is a good investment provided your other livestock will not harm it, as they also help keep malicious critters in check.

jm2c.

 

[Raven1770]

it the class cause I just started using Kent coralline accelerator, he is miscolored almost pale

 

[Reefer54]

check your water params. If a fish is miscoloring it is severly stressed....more often than not in aquarists cases due to water quality........have you changed any water since the death of the other fish?

 

[Raven1770]

No I do a weekly water change every Sat. the other two just died an hr ago. Salt salinity was a little low but not by much

 

[Reefer54]

check the rest of the params....I am guessing something is off. Ammonia will take a while to spike so it may not be registering right away. The discoloration of the fish is a sign of stress..... I would suggest a >10% water change if you have water ready and then check levels tomorrow....just keep monitoring it....At this point, to some degree, time and waiting are the only determining factor and course of action respectively.

 

[Raven1770]

ok thanks!!! Yea now my green goby is light blue/white

 

[RarefiedAir24]

Hard to tell, is the white discoloration on the fish or the tank glass? If it's on the fish then it looks like it could either be Brooklnyella or Marine Velvet both of which are fast killers. Only way to treat is with Formalin dips, if you don't have access to Formalin you can use Quick Cure as an alternative as it's easier to find..

Best of luck!
Frank

 

[MrTuskfish]

I think your new post (pale fish) pretty much sums up the situation. Your fish died from ammonia poisoning. You need a QT and the will to use it, or you'll never get a permanent, healthy tank. Slow down, read a couple good books on the topic, ask questions, and don't get any new fish until you have a QT running and have done some real reading. You can't learn this hobby through this forum alone and "trial & error" isn't a good way either. Many beginners get all their advice from a LFS, this (sadly) is not a good idea.

 

[Reefer54]

Any new updates?
Tuskfish kind of confirms my original thoughts, but I am curious if there are any new developments.

 

[dotcommer]

Post some new pics.

 

[Raven1770]

All my fish are dead! And for some reason ammonia was high? The tank was fully cycled so I don't know

 

[Reefer54]

Once something was dying, it started releasing ammonia way before you realized anything was going. Then it was kiind of like dominoes...sorry to put it that way, but ammonia will decimate a tank very fast. Even with large water changes every day, you probably wouldnt have been able to stop it, especially in a small tank. A QT tank is a MUST for many aquarists and not possible for many others still. But in this case, A QT would have been the perfect solution to move your livestock into while the water cycles again. Sorry for the loss.

Anyway, water changes. let the tank cycle again. And you are kind of back to square one. Now is a great time to make changes to your setup should you want to.....pending the health of any other livestock that are hangin in there.

And if you have any, many corals are tough enough to make it through a cycle with little side effect.....some are not so hardy however.

 

[Reefer54]

If you have a chance, post your tank specs.....size, LR LS, skimmer, sump, etc and perhaps this time around you may be able to avoid the same thing happening if there is something obviously going awry.

Check your fish list with the appropriate thread too prior to buying anything new.

 

[sjwitt]

Sorry to hear about this loss. If I can offer additional advice... a newly-cycled tank is still not stable enough to handle a sudden influx of, what I count to be, nine fish. That number is pushing it anyway for an established 36g tank (IMO).

When you get through this new cycle you should really slow down. Let the tank recover and then add ONLY one or two fish at a time. Wait for at least 2-4 weeks for the tank to stabilize to handle the additional bioload, then consider adding another one or two.

Of course this includes Quarantine of all newly-aquired fish for at least 4 weeks. QT doesn't have to be large but it too needs to be stable and able to house the inhabitants while they're in there.

You should have basic treatment medications on hand while going through the stocking phase. Not only are you checking to make sure disease and parasites don't get into the DT, you're also making sure the new arrival starts eating. Be sure to take your time and not rush new fish through the QT process; don't throw all the medications in at once expecting to short-cut the process because mixing meds can be deadly. There are really good stickies that describe the QT process. Use them.

Good luck. If you slow down and enjoy each phase of the hobby you will be rewarded with a healthy tank.