Is this LR doomed?

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A few months ago I bought a 75 off of some guy...the tank was in desperate need of some TLC. With what he was asking, I couldn't pass it up. To make a long story short, over 300lbs of Fiji LR was included in the deal. The tank was running for 3 years. The problem is that he was using tap water and NEVER did water changes. All he did was replace evaporated water with more tap water. He also only had two PC lights over them.

This rock is now in my 75 with RO/DI water with 10% weekly water changes. I have 2 175 watt 10k coralvue reeflux bulbs and 2 96 watt PC actinic. It has been in the tank for about 2 months. My ? is that the rock has no coraline on it. It is dark brown but I think has contributed to the brown sand I have developed in the tank. Stupid me used his sand as well, which I will be replacing this weekend when I take everything apart. The rock looks very porous and has many sizes and shapes to create an awesome aquascape. Will it be ok? Any suggestions?
 
IMO the rock is fine. I do the same thing....no water changes, top off with tap.

it may contribute to the diatom bloom, but that will pass. IMO to many water changes can casue depleted bacteria levels that are neded to keep diatoms at bay.

sounds like the new rock/tank needs a few pieces of rock that has good coraline on it already, to seed the tank. if you have had coraline growth on older rocks you may wna tto check the calcium, ph, and alk levels. the new rock may hnave thrown that off and stopped coraline growth.

hth.
but what do I know?
Goby
 
I'm hoping so. Another big mistake I made was not using (enough of) the Haitian LR that I had in my old tank. It looks nice, but Haitian is not porous at all and I wasn't getting the growth I wanted. However, the coraline was starting to take off and it had absolutely no algae on it. I still have the rock in my 55 and want to use that in my 75 when I put things back together.
 
Agreed again cook the rock i never believed in it and thought these guys were both stupid and crazy. ohhh how i now see the error in my ways. if you dont cook the rock to start off with you will fight algae and excess nutrients for ever!!! do you self the favor and get rid of the headache. cook the rocks! and good luck
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6694729#post6694729 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SeanT
Personally, I would "cook" that rock and regenerate it up. :thumbsup:
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Did you even read his post or did you just see live rock in the title and see a chance to contribute to your rock-killing agenda? He's worried about no coralline on the rocks and you think that cooking is going to increase coralline? If there is any left, cooking will kill it off.

Giants, you made a mistake by putting the old sand in your tank unless you washed it with A LOT with saltwater. If you didn't wash the sand, you will have algae problems for a while. But there is no reason to go through any drastic measures--simply do sand vacuuming with your weekly water changes and be patient. I had a similar problem once when I didn't wash the sand and it went away in a couple of months.
 
I've read that cooking is a great idea and I typically am a pretty patient person; however, I don't have the time or patience to wait out what could be a very long process with cooking. This rock does have tremendous life on it. There are incredible mushrooms all over it. The problem is that the color is really not what I am looking for. It's dark brown and green and although I know it's from excess nutrients, I think keeping the same crap sand full of detritus further contributed to the problem. I can see the garbage caked in the sand. I have new sand awaiting to replace the old. I'm doing that no matter what. So, I figure with new sand, my old Haitian, and the remainder of this rock that I want to use (mushroom encrusted), it should be enough to get rid of the diatoms that are in the old sand and making it brown. My real ? relies in turning this rock around (in regards to coraline growth) without taking drastic measures.
 
Id suggest something a little more simple. Get a toothbrush and big bucket of freshwater. Rince and scrub each rock down gently. Then add them to your setup and start adding good cleanup crew.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6695815#post6695815 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SeanT
Did anyone else see that troll that ran through here?
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Sorry if I'm trying to discourage people from listening to someone who can't go 6 months without posting a thread about their tank melting down.

What I'd call trolling is someone who jumps onto any post with the words "live rock" in them and, without so much as reading it (as you obviously didn't in this case), starts throwing out bogus advice that sets the reefer back much further than it helps them.
 
By responding to the earlier comment you have proved my point.

The facts are "cooking" live rocks works and you are wrong. :wavehand:
 
Sean T,
Can you please post some pictures of your tank.
I find it surprising that such a strong advocate of rock cooking doesn't have a gallery full of evidence.
That should settle the argument once and for all.
Thx
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6696549#post6696549 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SeanT
By responding to the earlier comment you have proved my point.

The facts are "cooking" live rocks works and you are wrong. :wavehand:
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Well, amputating your leg to get rid of athlete's foot "works" if that's how you want to look at it:lol:

The truth is that you're pushing your bare rocks agenda on anyone who will listen, which unfortunately is a lot of people since on a website, it's not the qualifications of the person that counts, it's the number of posts. I like to get information from someone who can keep a tank running for more than a few months at a time.

So, maybe 2% of the people you're pushing this on need it (and I'm being REALLY generous from my point of view on this number). The other 98% are damaging their tanks' ecosystems. I know you hate live rock (just look at all of the posts where you refer to it as "aquacluttered") but if you keep this up, eventually people are going to figure out it's just a bandaid and you'll become as irrelevant as Bomber and his "just ditch the sandbed and you'll never have any problems with your tank" nonsense.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6696596#post6696596 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Highlander
Sean T,
Can you please post some pictures of your tank.
I find it surprising that such a strong advocate of rock cooking doesn't have a gallery full of evidence.
That should settle the argument once and for all.
Thx
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Just remember that any pictures he posts are of a tank that's gone to heaven:confused:

Add to that the fact that any pictures of a nice tank would just be pictures of a nice tank. That, in and of itself, is not proof that rock cooking is necessary, as there are no tank of the month winners who've cooked their rocks, probably because someone who gets that far has their husbandry under control and never needs to do something that drastic.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6696688#post6696688 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by gillies
Dang you guys. When I was a kid, my dad would tell us to "get the gloves." Seriously.
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True story--this happened to me when a friend of mine's dad suggested the same. Only problem--my friend was about as close to legally blind as you can get without needing a guard dog. Both he and his father insisted on us boxing, and I took a couple of punches before swinging back. Unfortunately, I knocked him out. To this day I'm still known as "The guy that beat up that poor blind kid.":(
 
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