Is This Real Or Not?????
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musty baby
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Googled it.
edit/ oops, way to screw up the image tags
edit/ oops, way to screw up the image tags
musty baby
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How do you expect to prove they're not the same thing?
I've had many LPS undergo a range of color changes, the most dramatic being a chalice that went from purple and blue to purple with red eyes to now, purple with white speckles and red eyes. I have a favia that came brown, turned green, and is now yellow with green eyes. Are you expecting us to acknowledge that no color differences can occur, as fliger just noted, or different cameras in different hands don't take different pictures?
Yes, there is a difference. Different camera, different lighting, different photographer, different tank! Hell, maybe even a different coral, but you know that as little as I do!
I've had many LPS undergo a range of color changes, the most dramatic being a chalice that went from purple and blue to purple with red eyes to now, purple with white speckles and red eyes. I have a favia that came brown, turned green, and is now yellow with green eyes. Are you expecting us to acknowledge that no color differences can occur, as fliger just noted, or different cameras in different hands don't take different pictures?
Yes, there is a difference. Different camera, different lighting, different photographer, different tank! Hell, maybe even a different coral, but you know that as little as I do!
organism
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9135080#post9135080 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Elite
Is there a different between the two?? You guys tell me
actually, they look identical to each other, just one looks like it's under 400w uberblue 20k's, and the other one looks like it's in a farm system using 400w XM 15k. I have many pics of the mother colony that I could post, but it wouldn't be proper for me to post them on rc since it's relatively commercial. Let's face it guys, there's always going to be people that claim that because they spent 150 on a coral, that it can't possibly be the same coral that some else spent 39 for, regardless of whether they're actually the same coral or not, it's simply a psychological way of dealing with a high emotional investment. I won't post anything else in the thread other than keeping it to the facts, if you have purchased something, then by all means feel free to claim that the ones that I am selling are not the real deal, but if you haven't, then you're not really bringing anything new to the table other than speculation. I have pictures showing this same coral in different lighting looking incredibly different each time, corals will vary immensely from tank to tank and from light to light, it's simply the way it is.
wantsalotta
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I don't understand how people get so caught up in naming corals and making money off them that they forget to just appreciate the corals and that they are able to maintain them. Who cares if its tyree's or jdubs or fragglereef? If you like the way it looks, if you can care for it properly and let it thrive, if you can come to am agreeable price that YOU (and only you, it matters not what mr. smith thinks) are willing to spend on it, buy it and take good care of it. If you can't meet those three criteria, pass on it and find something else that is pretty to you, and your tank can support. Then, if the price is right for you, purchase it.
The only reason you could care if it was true tyree's le war coral is if you were looking make money on it in the future.
The only reason you could care if it was true tyree's le war coral is if you were looking make money on it in the future.
Elite
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Agree<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9135172#post9135172 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ryansholl
... but you know that as little as I do!
I've seen the warcoral in person in several tanks with different lighting and the color is very similar. I agree that different lighting, camera ... will effect the color of coral.
Maybe someone who has the original warcoral and Miguel's warcoral can tell if they are different or not. Or maybe Miguel can post a better pic of his colony
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frontosa_man80
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any time dave, its starting to grow now and it looks like skips.
-jesse
frontosa_man80
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no this is not always true. some people (me and fliger) would rather have the more rare corals. and because it belongs to tyree or anyone else doesnt matter too much. if i get if from one of them i know its a well taken care of coral and the colors are going to be bright and not fade as soon as i move it. not everyone is in it for the money. i know dave is not one of those people.
the whole reason i asked is because im always on the look out for the rare ones to grow out and flood our local group and offset that insane price people charge.
-jesse
Justin74
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Very passive aggressive :/ and your next responses clearly show that by still trying to find out if your speculation is right or not, even after the guy has the juevos to step up to the plate to verify this.
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9135306#post9135306 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Elite
Maybe someone who has the original warcoral and Miguel's warcoral can tell if they are different or not. Or maybe Miguel can post a better pic of his colony
Why dont you just ask him if he's lying or not. You basically inferred that he was already in several instances on this thread, even though he's clearly stated this is the real deal from Tyree.
-Justin
musty baby
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Take your pick, either where he says they're the same or on the sale page, which is still cached by google.
musty baby
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I think we can all agree on that one.
Justin74
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Ya, I think we can too. Especially thanks to Mr. Ugly once again I had no idea and when Im looking at a coral and in bold letters ILE WAR CORAL, without second guessing assume possibly typo and also assume that this is the originally "named" coral there inferring in there title. My thought process then goes to how nice/healthy/colorfull the coral is, not to sit and decipher I=immitation. I cant say dishonest because Mr. Ugly knew about it.. But definately not forthcoming, so much so now that I know I looked back and still cant find where they say that. Drop the ILE "name" and just say awesome or something and if you want to travel down that road just infer that it looks similar. To me that just furthers the thought logic of being such a thing as "generic" corals. Me and a buddy were trying to argue this debate out last night open mindedly but both roads lead down a no win situation. Ultimately, short of an international registry for wowie zowie names I wish we could just stick to favites pentagona .
The names just rely on the color too much. And opens doors for debates such as dishonesty . And if someones honesty is presumed by a color....
The whole in that logic is I could take that same "war coral" , stick it in the toilet and flush for 20 sec, just long enough not to kill it. Take it out immediately and stick back into my tank every other day for the next 2 months, consistantly. Think itll be the same color? Or even just grow it in poor water and VERY low light. On and on.....
-Justin
I had no idea and when Im looking at a coral and in bold letters ILE WAR CORAL, without second guessing assume possibly typo and also assume that this is the originally "named" coral there inferring in there title. My thought process then goes to how nice/healthy/colorfull the coral is, not to sit and decipher I=immitation. I cant say dishonest because Mr. Ugly knew about it.. But definately not forthcoming, so much so now that I know I looked back and still cant find where they say that. Drop the ILE "name" and just say awesome or something and if you want to travel down that road just infer that it looks similar. To me that just furthers the thought logic of being such a thing as "generic" corals. Me and a buddy were trying to argue this debate out last night open mindedly but both roads lead down a no win situation. Ultimately, short of an international registry for wowie zowie names I wish we could just stick to favites pentagona . The names just rely on the color too much. And opens doors for debates such as dishonesty . And if someones honesty is presumed by a color....
The whole in that logic is I could take that same "war coral" , stick it in the toilet and flush for 20 sec, just long enough not to kill it. Take it out immediately and stick back into my tank every other day for the next 2 months, consistantly. Think itll be the same color? Or even just grow it in poor water and VERY low light. On and on.....-Justin
Mr. Ugly
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9136991#post9136991 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Justin74
Ya, I think we can too. Especially thanks to Mr. Ugly once again
Heh, well I saw ILE on their web page for other items, so I knew it wasn't a typo.
I didn't know what it was, though. So I asked them "What's up with that?", and they told me.
Yah, I'd drop the ILE too
On the pieces where I care about the lineage, I do make a point to ask.
I don't ask Gresham though, because I know he gets all the cool stuff before it even becomes cool, haha.
He's like, "been there, done that, propped and fragged a bunch already"
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9137717#post9137717 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mr. Ugly
He's like, "been there, done that, propped and fragged a bunch already"
:lol: ROTFLMAO......Thanks you made my day with that :lol:
You do know me, don't you
Just for that I'm bringing a special treat for you to the swap
