Is this stock list crazy?

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i would say your stock list is on the heavy side, but if you keep up with your maintenance and water changes its not impossible they will survive. all the other fish are hardy and your soft corals are easy to take care of. so you do have a little room for error with this stock list.
the mandarin is hard to keep, like the others have said it will probably slowly starve to death, i would restock with pods and try to train it to eat frozen mysit shrimp. and still this may not be enough to keep it alive for years, but hey cant fault you for trying..
as far as the tangm i would get one of the bristletooth tangs, i have a kole tang in a 55 about 3-4 inches and he has been in there 9 months and doesn't bother anyone and eats like a pig. the brown tang will get to big and might get very nasty with your oher fish. i am in the same dilemma, my wife got me a little quarter size hippo tang, it was floating in the tank for me on my birthday.. its been 6 months and so far he is growing and doing ok. but for first 3 months he wouldn't come out . my kole and clownfish was beating him up. i also know he shouldnt be in the tank, but try explaining that to the wife. good luck with your fish.
 
I agree on the others about the mandarin.

heres a post from sk8r

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2446049&highlight=mandarin

and heres a direct quote right from the thread.

i bolded the important part to note.

Posted 03/03/2012 at 09:44 AM by Sk8r
A mandy should be making a successful 'kill' of a pod every 5 seconds to remain healthy. Keeping one in a well-established 50 with 50 lbs of holey rock, and a mature, year-old 20 gallon fuge with another 20 lbs of rock is very marginal. If you meet those conditions and there is no competition for pods, you can do it with caution. A hundred gallon tank is better.

To run the math, there are 86400 seconds in 24 hours...and given 12 hours of dark when it is not eating (it actually eats before the lights come on...that is 43200 seconds of daylight, divided by 5 (every five seconds)---meaning that a mandy eats about 8640 pods a day, or 720 an hour. Two thousand pods, if fed to it in the required concentration, will be eaten in less than 3 hours. If you have a pair---do the math. You need at least 100 gallons supported by a very large, strong fuge with cheato and live rock.
 
So my cousin has a 25gal and hes had a Mandarin in there for over 2 years now. Hes a fatty and hes super active. I have a 45 and have been dying to have one but have refrained from doing so. He seeds his tank with pods 2 times a year. Also he never feeds meaty food to his tank, strictly pellets, which the Manadarin also eats. He feeds the tank once a day after work. I really really want one of these little guys but I'm thinking his tank might be an exception to the rule.

What else was in the tank? From what people say you can get Mandy's to eat food other than pods as a supplement. Here is the kicker. They will get out competed for that food especially with the OP's stock list.

To the OP please don't get frustrated because you aren't getting the answer you want. Everyone here are trying to help bc they care about your success and the animals you care for. While some people are more blunt about it then others, you see a consistent message on this thread and if you do a basic search on the tang and the Mandy. They just aren't right for this tank. You could have a few months of success but it will eventually catch up to you.

Good luck with whatever you decide.
 
Can I ask what the point of this thread is? If you read as much as you claim to have read, on this forum, you'd know the answers you were going to get. And you have pushed back against anyone saying as much.
You ask for opinions and then argue the consensus. Why? What's the point?
 
Can I ask what the point of this thread is? If you read as much as you claim to have read, on this forum, you'd know the answers you were going to get. And you have pushed back against anyone saying as much.
You ask for opinions and then argue the consensus. Why? What's the point?

I haven't made any claims as to how much I have read on this forum, simply that I've found it useful. I posted because I was curious as to the response I would get. I haven't pushed back, merely offered my end, and even said thank you for the comments and that I wasn't discounting any of them. I did find one comment fairly rude because it criticized without giving reason or further commentary than to say my tank was "sad" so yes, that got on my nerves. Otherwise most of the other commentators offered their reasons which were all justifiable. I didn't push back. When learning, we often question what we're being taught by saying we understood it this way, or had been told that. It doesn't mean the student is pushing back, rather that they are trying to encompass new information into what they had previously understood.
 
Yeah I'm not sure that post was deserving. I know most people on this forum are very supportive and that was a very negative and rude comment. You're doing the right thing by asking and getting opinions.
 
You've got too many fish for that size tank. Territory is going to be a problem. Food for the mandarin as well. If you can get him onto mysis or pellets ; then by all means keep him.

Just please sell the powder brown. They need a far bigger tank and are prone to getting whitespot when feeling stressed. He probably isn't enjoying life in that little tank.

Your skimmer also isn't all that big, so nutrients may become a problem in the future. With 9 fish in the tank (excluding the powder brown) you're on the limit. Maybe consider reducing the Fish load to 7 small fish.
 
Gee, Brian, thanks for the friendly and helpful comment.

TBH I've had experienced reefers express envy over my setup and have told me my tank is doing great. Not just fine, but great. I've found a lot of helpful tips in these forums, so I thought I'd try it out for myself. Comments like that certainly make it less worth the time.

Well in the title you asked and he answered.

Ive had alot of people tell me im doing something good also to make me feel good even though they and i knew what i was doing was not correct.

I guess the best answer you will get is from your fish when they start getting sick and die, hopefully you will take the advice of others and do the right thing though.
 
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