Just a quick Ick medication question

[aanthony]

Ok, so my 90 gallon has ick, the only fish that seems to have it affecting them is my powder blue, and ick has hit him hard, i have about 3 cleaner shrimp, and one cleaner wrasse, i dose their food with selcon and garlic, but this powder blue has tons of spots, and ive noticed he has gotten a bit thinner. Now at my lfs they have this ick medication called medic, its made by a company called polyp labs. now since i cant post other sites ill just copy and paste the description of the product, this stuff is 40 bucks a bottle, i dont really want to take down my whole tank though, last time i did that my shrimp got super stressed and then died , but i do want to save my $60 pb. read the description, tell me what you think
http://www.polyplab.com/medic.html

 

[MoonTang]

I have used it and it is very good. The product is made up here in Canada and goes for $40 CAN.

Just make sure you follow the instructions carefully.

This was the best $40 dollars i have spend on anything for my tank. No hassle with catching fishes.

 

[kevin2000]

My 02

To be blunt ... if there was a "reef safe" medication that worked with any consistency everyone would know about it. Reading the instructions for this product would lead me to believe that it has limited and perhaps no chance of being effective .. a ten day treatment period is just insufficient to cure ich even with stronger meds in a QT tank.

Hypo salinity and copper are the two well established ich cures .. unfortunately they should not be used in a reef tank.

 

[MoonTang]

Well the product has only been on the market for less then a year.

 

[Freed]

Here's what you do: Take $40 out of your wallet/pocket/purse. Hold it in your right hand. Pick up the trash can with the left hand. Hold the right hand over the left hand and let go with the right hand. Now, take the same amount of RO water that would have been in the bottle and dump that in the tank instead. You can do that or know that regardless of what you do the ich will disappear from the fish in a few days and will then reappear after another 1-2 weeks. This is the life cycle of ich and with or without the useless bottle of water you would buy you will end up the same either way.

Please note the best and only proven way to combat ich is to QT all of your fish for no less than 4-6 weeks in either hyposalinity or copper. Problem solved.

 

[ssavader]

I did notice that the first paragraph of the ad uses the word "control" instead of "kill". Many articles posted on ths forum by well respected authors clearly state that hyposalinity and copper are proven to kill Ich and cure those fish that survive. This product may well control marine Ich without killing it, and if so, is an expensive control agent. Perhaps we will see an indepent author conduct an experiment in the near future with this product and demonstrate its advantages and limitations .

 

[MoonTang]

What i don't understand is all this nonsense posts that do not even answer his question.

He asked about this product not about anything else. All you people posting have not even tried this product first of all. Yes we know the best way but what if something were to happen to your fish in your DT and you don't want to ruin your rock work??? Like honestly many of us have lots and lots of liverock in our tanks.

Well here's my story i always Qt all new fish but there was one that i didn't which is a purple tang that was given to me from a friend because he was just too big for his tank. He had it for 3 years so i thought the heck with it i'll just add it to the DT within weeks ich had spreaded to all the others. I went to a LFS and the owner recommended a product to me called Polyp Lab Medic and it worked like he said.

So..... It's really up to you give it a try or do what all these guys are saying and tear down your tank and put ALL your fish into a QT for 4-6 weeks. But like i said it just came out not to long ago and you can only get it from 6 places in the USA and 13 in Canada.

 

[Freed]

I'll bet the ich disappeared in a few days too didn't it?

 

[kevin2000]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10961953#post10961953 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MoonTang
What i don't understand is all this nonsense posts that do not even answer his question.

Do you mean the part where he asks ""read the description and tell me what you think"?

Believe it or not ich is a well researched disease and this isn't the first peroxide based product that has been marketed.

 

[MoonTang]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10962001#post10962001 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Freed
I'll bet the ich disappeared in a few days too didn't it?

Of course it did or else i wouldn't be so against you guys for not even believing that there are other methods to treating ich.

 

[kevin2000]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10962185#post10962185 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MoonTang
Of course it did or else i wouldn't be so against you guys for not even believing that there are other methods to treating ich.

I think Freed is trying to point out that ich naturally falls off of fish within a week and many people mistakenly believe thats due to the "reef safe" medication they used. In reality you could put grape juice in the tank a get the same initial impact.

Heres a good link which discusses the natural life cycle of ich .. worth a read.

http://www.petsforum.com/personal/trevor-jones/marineich.html

 

[MoonTang]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10962096#post10962096 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kevin2000
Do you mean the part where he asks ""read the description and tell me what you think"?

Believe it or not ich is a well researched disease and this isn't the first peroxide based product that has been marketed.

And your point is???

 

[MoonTang]

That reference you posted has been dated to 1994 as the most recent. Can we not agree thats a very long time ago????

Man..... In 1994 everyone was using a Wet/Dry filter with bio balls and a Under gravel filter.


I will not respond to this thread anymore. All i can say is it worked for me.

 

[kevin2000]

The life cycle of ich hasn't changes since 1994 . Further .. the comments made on this thread are for the benefit of the orginal poster .. not sure why you apparently find offense. I suggest you read the ich FAQ - there are some good threads discussing ich.

 

[sruiz]

im sure that for 40 dollars you can set up a used qt tank, buy it and do hyposalinity. just make sure you only have the fish in tha tank.

 

[wolf pup]

My unsolicited opinion: If the OP wants to "control" ICH he may have success with a variety of reef-safe products. I have read a great deal of anecdotal evidence on this and other boards of people having successful results in controlling ICH. If the OP wants to "cure" the tank and insure that he would never lose a fish to ICH in the DT then he needs to bite the bullet and separate the fish and the inverts - fallow the DT and cure the fish (as described in the stickies). People will immediately say "I can't do that" ... well then you will not cure the ICH, you may have success in controlling it, but you will[/] always risk losing fish to an outbreak. I've caused enough death due to my believing that I couldn't separate out the tank. I'm not treating any fish any more based on anecdotal experience. Show me the data baby.