kalk reactor & float valve auto top off

kenghmoob

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Currently, my ro/di is gravity fed to a Eshopps Float Valve Auto-Top to replace the evaporated water column. I want to incorporate a kalk reactor to my system and am wondering if i can feed the kalk reactor with the ro/di water and having the discharge plumbed into the float valve. Are there any problems with this set up? Will there be build up on the float valve causing malfunction? Any help is greatly appreciated
 
The other 2 are correct. Don't use it with a float valve, it will clog and fail. It won't be some little easy correctable error either, we're talking catastrophic failure due to the rise in PH. Pretty much kiss your tank goodbye if you go this rout. A sensor style float valve or a true ATO such as the tunze, JBJ would be much much better. Heck even a aqua lifter on a timer would work better/safer than a float valve.
 
I use the dual sump float switches from autotopoff.com and a very slow cole-parmer peristaltic pump to feed my reactor.

Very reliable.
 
It really depends on the float valve in question. I've had clogging issues when dripping Kalkwasser through a humidifier float valve. I have in fact suspended the practice for fear of damaging my heater and pumps.

Currently I'm shopping for a Kerrick heavy duty PVC float valve locally. The Kerrick design employs a large diameter piston and is unlikely to clog quickly. This place sells them: http://www.thevalveshop.com/menu/manual/kerick/float.html

I believe this is the best method but I haven't yet gotten my hands on one for testing. Feel free to buy two and send me one :D
 
Thanks guys for all your responses. Currently, I "T" off the 1/4" line coming from the RO/DI reservoir one going to the float vlv and the other to my kalk reactor. I have the effluent of the kalk reactor at a very slow drip into my sump. So far, I am able to keep my PH constant.
 
ken, with your kalk "tee"ed off of your top off and dripping into your tank, what is the drip rate you are using? i currently have my rodi water hooked to the elecronic solenoid controlled by a dual float switch from autotopoff.com and it fills my sump return chamber directly from the rodi unit whenever the water level is low enough to be switched on.. i was thinking abt getting a kalk stirrer and not sure how to plumb it in. i have a 92g tank with a 54g sump2/3 full.. is there a specific amount of kalk water i would need to keep my levels?
 
ken, with your kalk "tee"ed off of your top off and dripping into your tank, what is the drip rate you are using? i currently have my rodi water hooked to the elecronic solenoid controlled by a dual float switch from autotopoff.com and it fills my sump return chamber directly from the rodi unit whenever the water level is low enough to be switched on.. i was thinking abt getting a kalk stirrer and not sure how to plumb it in. i have a 92g tank with a 54g sump2/3 full.. is there a specific amount of kalk water i would need to keep my levels?

What you don't want to do is add kalkwasser in large doses.

I have dual in-sump floats (non latching) controlling a peristaltic pump that pulls from a 5g reservoir and pushes water slowly through my kalk reactor. Every morning my controller opens solenoids for both the ro and a bypass for the flow restricter. After a 10 minute flush the RO fills in order the reservoir, water change container (120g), and a pressurized storage tank(3g for drinking). DI lasts a lot longer since start up TDS is much lower. I use a 1rpm cole parmer peristaltic pump. It probably runs 5 or 6 hours a day. A good solid setup. 100% top off goes through the reactor.
 
ken, with your kalk "tee"ed off of your top off and dripping into your tank, what is the drip rate you are using? i currently have my rodi water hooked to the elecronic solenoid controlled by a dual float switch from autotopoff.com and it fills my sump return chamber directly from the rodi unit whenever the water level is low enough to be switched on.. i was thinking abt getting a kalk stirrer and not sure how to plumb it in. i have a 92g tank with a 54g sump2/3 full.. is there a specific amount of kalk water i would need to keep my levels?

I have the exact dual float switch from autotopoff as well as (3) solenoid valves that I never used. Originally, was going to control the solenoid valves through my Aquacontroller where (2) valves remained open all the time. I was going to set my parameters accordingly so that if my PH rose too high then the valve to the Kalk reactor would close and the valve where the RO/DI going into my sump would open. If the PH remained lower then the parameter I set, then the valve for the direct RO/DI into the sump would be closed while the valve for the kalk reactor would be open. If the water lever rose high enough to turn the float switch off, then I had it turn off the solenoid valve that was before both the previous valves. Of course it always works best in my head then actually doing it. I never set up my aquacontroller thus never set up my valves. The dual float switch sat in my sump while I never hooked up the valves. Recently, I upgraded to a 180 gallon tank and finally came around to starting what i planned. Now, the only problem is that the relay switches in the black box doesn't seem to work cause I can't get the valves to work when I tested it. Long story short, i wasted my money.

I remember reading somewhere on here that someone had the same setup and that the valve leading to the kalk reactor never closed because the PH never rose to the level to close the valve. So in essence, all his RO/DI went through the kalk reactor then to his sump. Plus if you look at the solenoid valves on autotopoff, they don't recommend having the valves on all the time. In this case, (2) valves will need to be on all them time. I don't know if it will void the warrenty if the valves were left on the whole time.

With that, I decided to "T" off my RO/DI line where one goes to the float valve and the other to the kalk reactor. As the water rises, it will shut off or slow down the drip on the float valve. The effluent off the kalk is set at (1) drip every 2 seconds. So far, everything has remained constant. My PH has yet to go above 8.2 and at night, my PH drops to about 8.09-8.12. Again, I have the pump on the PM reactor to turn on for 1 minute every 4 hours. I still monitor the valve that controls the drip cause I'm pretty sure the lime water will calcify on the valve causing it to clog. In that case, I'll just pull off the valve and rinse it off.

It is working for me so far so I'll try it for a while. I don't know how it will turn out long term. I have nothing to lose right now because my tank is still empty and I'm still cycling it. You must remember that kalk can only be introduced slowly.
 
What about using it with feed pumps like IKS? I'm planning to use one of those

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You don't want to activate the solenoids constantly. It is best to use the solenoids to turn on and off the RO the way I described and use a peristaltic pump to feed the kalk reactor. You don't want a stuck solenoid to nuke your tank. Make sure that if one fails open it will not kill the tank.
 
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