Keeping Clams

not a bad 101, but i'm going to take specific issue with their claims on filter feeding. what i've read contradicts that. T. gigas is known to get a decent chunk of its energy from filter feeding, other clam species, not so much. additionally, it varies highly from species to species. it's a nuanced topic, and i think they over generalized there. i would also disagree that feeding phyto will help clams under 3" of the shell grow. that's an old wive's tale that i don't put much stock in.

there are other giant clams not mentioned. Hippopus sp. comes to mind first. they're starting to make their way in to the hobby more frequently.

high flow introducing bubbles? not really. my primary concern with high flow is annoying the clam or potentially folding the mantle over. again, this varies depending on species. my T. crocea will tolerate much higher flow than my T. derasa.

in response to the byssal organ, not all clams attach the same. for example, in T. derasa the byssal opening will close as the clam matures, and will transition to using their weight, not byssal threads, to hold them in place.

as far as his tips on clam identification, ehhhhh. shell is one piece of identification, i wouldn't put much stock in colors. he specifically points out colors on T. derasa, which can vary. in some cases clam identification is easy, in others it is more art than science. add to that the possibility of them hybridizing, and it can be a fun game.

a long way off from aquaculturing clams? check out Acro Al, he rears several species of giant clam in his driveway. ;)

if you're already successfully keeping SPS, that's a good launching point for keeping clams. it usually means that you have proper lighting, and a good plan for supplying alkalinity and calcium. these guys can suck up a surprising amount of both.

aside from those considerations the most important piece of advice i can offer is learning to identify a healthy specimen. there isn't much you can do in the way of treatment or palliative care. so being able to choose a healthy specimen is a crucial factor for success.

also consider adult size and placement. i picked up my T. derasa in october of 2013, it was so small i could easily hold it in the palm of my hand. in just three short years it has grown probably 4 - 5 times that size, and now sits at about 7" shell length, and can potentially reach three times that size if all goes well. squamosa get fairly large too, maxima and crocea tend to stay much smaller.

depending on the species of clam you choose, placement in tank is important. T. derasa should be in the sand, T. crocea should be high up in the rocks and as close to the light as possible, with other species falling somewhere in between.

oh, and make sure you have a way to cover them if they're close to the surface during water changes. my T. crocea sits a few inches below the water line. so if i do a large water change, it may end up partially out of water. that thing will fire huge blasts of high pressure water up to several feet. soaking me, the floor, the lights, and whatever else happens to be in the way. that can lead to some not-so-fun outcomes if you're not prepared.
 
I read and read and read prior to introducing a clam into my mixed reef. I also waited until my tank was a few years old then I jumped in and got a derasa. I chose a derasa as my first clam since they are regarded as an easier variety to keep happy. I placed it in an area of the tank where it would have plenty of room to move and find its happy place. Luckily it only moved a few inches. I just made sure my water was great, I had the proper flow and adequate lighting.

When picking out a clam at your LFS wave your hands over the clam and see how it reacts. It should be "startled" and close quickly. Also, read the thread regarding some issue with the health of clams. That will help you identify a good looking clam at your LFS.
 
i agree with wave your hands, i think the trick is getting a healthy clam no matter what size. i once had a tank that had half my corals die over a 6 month period. hell even hammers and acans died, just didn't have time to take care of the tank. but my maxima clam made it though. i did keep my alk and cal high though . hope that helps
 
This is all great advice everyone! Thanks a lot. Based on your feedback finding a clam that I can place in the sandbed is going to be a good bet for me. I have minimal rock so best place will be the sand. Anyone know types of par ranges? My sand bed gets 80-120 par. Is that enough? I'm thinking on the higher side. There's an area in my tank that it can go between two rock structures that receives higher light and medium flow. What do you think?

Also, as far as feeding goes, I don't mind target feeding. Would T. derasa require any kind of supplemental feeding at any particular size?

Thanks, Joey
 
do you have sand in your tank. to be honest with a lot of fish and feeding them i had to take out the sand it was hard to keep phosphates down
 
do you have sand in your tank. to be honest with a lot of fish and feeding them i had to take out the sand it was hard to keep phosphates down



Yes. I run ZeoVit. It's hard to keep my phosphates above .03 and my nitrate does not even register.


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My 13+" 10 year old Derasa has been an amazingly resilient clam and survived at least two early tank crashes and several tank moves (you can even tell on the shell where growth was different). I don't do anything special for it, though I am basically out of room for it and hope it won't get to 24" ;)
 
Hey guys! So I ended up picking up this 4" Maxima at a local frag swap for 40. He's been in the tank since Sunday. I've placed him on a Little Rock and he's moved around a tiny bit and it seems he's attached himself to the rock. With that said, his other half is exposed to the sand. He seems happy. I hear sometimes these don't do well in the sand. Should I move him? He looks like he gets enough light and is always open during the day and partially closed at night.


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Don't wedge it in between rocks. Maximas and Squamosas are the best choice. Croceas and Derasas have zero place in the hobby IMO. Just keep and eye out for signs of stress like gaping. And clams do eat. They have all the same organs we do, so their diet is going to need to keep up with any energy burnt. If it was PLANT it could survive of light alone. If it was ALGAE it could survive off nutrients alone. But saying a clam doesn't need actual food like particulate zoo or phyto to me is like saying fish don't need food. They have fully functioning anatomical organ systems...so they eat.

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Don't wedge it in between rocks. Maximas and Squamosas are the best choice. Croceas and Derasas have zero place in the hobby IMO. Just keep and eye out for signs of stress like gaping. And clams do eat. They have all the same organs we do, so their diet is going to need to keep up with any energy burnt. If it was PLANT it could survive of light alone. If it was ALGAE it could survive off nutrients alone. But saying a clam doesn't need actual food like particulate zoo or phyto to me is like saying fish don't need food. They have fully functioning anatomical organ systems...so they eat.


I disagree with a lot of this. We don't have the same organs clams do. What's wrong with T. Crocea and T. Derasa?

Plants don't survive off light alone. Algae does not survive off nutrients alone. All forms of life need a source of nitrogen and phosphorous, in addition to other nutrients. If you feed your tank enough however, your clam probably does not need extra food.

"they have fully functioning anatomical organ systems...so they eat" This logic is a bit ridiculous. Plants have organs, and they do not need to "eat". Just saying.
 
I disagree with a lot of this. We don't have the same organs clams do. What's wrong with T. Crocea and T. Derasa?

Plants don't survive off light alone. Algae does not survive off nutrients alone. All forms of life need a source of nitrogen and phosphorous, in addition to other nutrients. If you feed your tank enough however, your clam probably does not need extra food.

"they have fully functioning anatomical organ systems...so they eat" This logic is a bit ridiculous. Plants have organs, and they do not need to "eat". Just saying.
He has a lot of very, uhm, interesting opinions on clam husbandry.

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Don't wedge it in between rocks. Maximas and Squamosas are the best choice. Croceas and Derasas have zero place in the hobby IMO. Just keep and eye out for signs of stress like gaping. And clams do eat. They have all the same organs we do, so their diet is going to need to keep up with any energy burnt. If it was PLANT it could survive of light alone. If it was ALGAE it could survive off nutrients alone. But saying a clam doesn't need actual food like particulate zoo or phyto to me is like saying fish don't need food. They have fully functioning anatomical organ systems...so they eat.

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Wow this is so off base I can only think that since he is from Colorado, maybe he smoked before this posted

Ps you can give plants all the nutrients in the world. Without light they die. Plus they all need this little thing called water. Just saying


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