Kessil AP 700 Owners Gather Here!

[jdantunes]

I'm very disappointed from knowing that BRS had to add one more AP700 to the BRS 160 build. Now they are using 3x Ap700 plus 4x 80W T5HO on a 6' x 2' x 20" tank, that's over $3300 in lighting!

 

[vhuang168]

Depends on why they felt they needed to add another.

I'll be running 3 on a 60/27/27. Not that 2 wouldn't cover it but more to reduce shadowing.


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[gus6464]

I joined the club. AP700 will be delivered on Monday. Putting it inside a canopy with 4x T5. Hanging high because tank is only 24x24x16. Thinking 12" above the tank.

 

[bif24701]

Anyone else having issues getting the lamps to actually use the program I set up. Isn't it set it and forget it? I turn on the program the lights turn on bright then never change. They just stay on whatever setting it was at when I turn on the program and they don't run it. So frustrating. Any help would be much appreciated.

Are you sure they are on program, not manual?


Aaron

 

[bif24701]

I'm very disappointed from knowing that BRS had to add one more AP700 to the BRS 160 build. Now they are using 3x Ap700 plus 4x 80W T5HO on a 6' x 2' x 20" tank, that's over $3300 in lighting!

If you heard their explanation, and the fact the AP700s are running only 30%. It's seems clear to me they had no reason other than just because. I have a 180, same length width, and see no reason to add a third.


Aaron

 

[bif24701]

I joined the club. AP700 will be delivered on Monday. Putting it inside a canopy with 4x T5. Hanging high because tank is only 24x24x16. Thinking 12" above the tank.

Actually you will want to mount lower. Mounting a light that spreads the light so well you will get light spilling outside of the tank. It's controllable so just set the intensity lower.


Aaron

 

[gus6464]

Actually you will want to mount lower. Mounting a light that spreads the light so well you will get light spilling outside of the tank. It's controllable so just set the intensity lower.


Aaron

Well thing is I am scared of T5 being too much at lower height when they fire up. I am using philips centiums which in 24W mode have very high ballast factor. It will be a floating canopy thought that I am attaching with a tv full motion mount to the wall so the canopy should contain all of the spill.

 

[jdantunes]

I guess that you are going to overdrive your T5's? Can I ask the reason?

 

[gus6464]

I guess that you are going to overdrive your T5's? Can I ask the reason?

It's not overdriving when power factor stays the same. Centium ICN-2S39T have a ballast factor of 1.12 @ 24w with power factor still at 1.00. It's just a more efficient ballast. Overdriving is when power factor is above 1.00.

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[Confuse]

I joined the club. AP700 will be delivered on Monday. Putting it inside a canopy with 4x T5. Hanging high because tank is only 24x24x16. Thinking 12" above the tank.

Gus, let us know what you think of the light. We have similar taste in LED/spectrum philosophy, so I'd be interested to learn your opinion of the AP 700.

 

[gus6464]

Gus, let us know what you think of the light. We have similar taste in LED/spectrum philosophy, so I'd be interested to learn your opinion of the AP 700.

Will do. What I like about the Kessil is that color control is easy and looks good no matter what color was selected on the app. Lights with a zillion channels annoy me. Think I'm going to run 2 coral plus and 2 true actinic and run the ap700 on the bluer color close to the radium 20k blue.

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[Confuse]

Will do. What I like about the Kessil is that color control is easy and looks good no matter what color was selected on the app. Lights with a zillion channels annoy me. Think I'm going to run 2 coral plus and 2 true actinic and run the ap700 on the bluer color close to the radium 20k blue.

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I like the overall look of my Kessil because I am able to emulate a 20K Radium look that I have never been able to achieve in any LED fixture. However, I am not happy that they still use cool whites. I had a large deep red blasto colony in my tank with AP 700's and it looked orange, but when I put the same coral under my NanoBox LEDs in my 20g, the colony was a deep solid red due to the use of warm and neutral whites. While I don't really like separate green and red channels, the adjustment of them on the AP 700 is very subtle and it does not create a disco effect. I run the red and green channel at about 30% and I can't tell from looking at the tank, but certain corals tend to look reder or greener.

 

[gus6464]

I like the overall look of my Kessil because I am able to emulate a 20K Radium look that I have never been able to achieve in any LED fixture. However, I am not happy that they still use cool whites. I had a large deep red blasto colony in my tank with AP 700's and it looked orange, but when I put the same coral under my NanoBox LEDs in my 20g, the colony was a deep solid red due to the use of warm and neutral whites. While I don't really like separate green and red channels, the adjustment of them on the AP 700 is very subtle and it does not create a disco effect. I run the red and green channel at about 30% and I can't tell from looking at the tank, but certain corals tend to look reder or greener.

I still think nanobox has the best color but I just wish you could mount a reflector on them. That's all they really need to be the top of the crop.

 

[bif24701]

I like the overall look of my Kessil because I am able to emulate a 20K Radium look that I have never been able to achieve in any LED fixture. However, I am not happy that they still use cool whites. I had a large deep red blasto colony in my tank with AP 700's and it looked orange, but when I put the same coral under my NanoBox LEDs in my 20g, the colony was a deep solid red due to the use of warm and neutral whites. While I don't really like separate green and red channels, the adjustment of them on the AP 700 is very subtle and it does not create a disco effect. I run the red and green channel at about 30% and I can't tell from looking at the tank, but certain corals tend to look reder or greener.

What color choice do you feel gives you the Radium 20k look? I've never had them.

I run my red/green at 35% feel it is just enough to balance them out, looks good.




Aaron

 

[Confuse]

What color choice do you feel gives you the Radium 20k look? I've never had them.

I run my red/green at 35% feel it is just enough to balance them out, looks good.




Aaron

I believe it's the fourth setting from the bottom of the white/blue color wheel on the left? It's a crisp white with a hint of blue. I kind of wish that we would have flexibility over the color wheel like the color knob does on the physical fixtures, but they're divided into smaller pieces, so they're preset.

 

[bif24701]

I believe it's the fourth setting from the bottom of the white/blue color wheel on the left? It's a crisp white with a hint of blue. I kind of wish that we would have flexibility over the color wheel like the color knob does on the physical fixtures, but they're divided into smaller pieces, so they're preset.

That's I think the one I chose also, mine go to full blue mornings and evenings.


Aaron

 

[Confuse]

I still think nanobox has the best color but I just wish you could mount a reflector on them. That's all they really need to be the top of the crop.

Yeah, the NanoBox is probably the best LED fixture I've owned. I'm really interested in what the Blue Acro guy is doing with the Rebel Z's and reflectors. Looks promising.

 

[Thor2j]

Joining the club. Ordered 2 AP700s to replace 4 360wes over my reefer 525xl.

 

[bif24701]

Joining the club. Ordered 2 AP700s to replace 4 360wes over my reefer 525xl.

Welcome!


Aaron

 

[Thor2j]

Welcome!


Aaron

Ill be doing a little analysis when I get them. I have the new Apogee PAR meter that supposedly measures the blue much better. Game plan is to dial them to the same PAR my 360s are at and then slowly ramp up.

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