Kessil AP 700 Owners Gather Here!

[gus6464]

Just curious can the 700 be linked in with the A360 for control
Thru the apex


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No


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[Kyl]

Just curious can the 700 be linked in with the A360 for control
Thru the apex


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AP700 cannot be linked to anything other than the phone/tablet app for control as of this moment. Early on they were saying Apex functionality eventually, but I wouldn't hold your breath.

 

[bif24701]

You will be amazed at what happens to your tank running the ap700 with t5's.
The growth you get is insane. I run the combo. On the same system I run m80 radium/vho with a 360 and the growth is nowhere close. Only variable I can see is water flow and depth of tank. Mh/vho/360 is a 12" tall tank vs the ap700/t5 300dd tank.

I can imagine. The best reef tanks I have seen personally where all Kessil 360/T5 combo. I couldn't see any system that wouldn't benefit in some way from additional T5 lighting. I've already laid plans to add 4 60" tubes someday to my two AP700s. There are far too many advantages to combining these two that it makes no sense not to at least consider the option.


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[ktownhero]

How do you all with a T5 combo handle the scheduling? Do the T5s only come on at the height of your schedule or are they on the whole time with the AP700 driving the primary intensity?

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[mfaso24]

How do you all with a T5 combo handle the scheduling? Do the T5s only come on at the height of your schedule or are they on the whole time with the AP700 driving the primary intensity?

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Can't speak from personal experience but I have seen it done both ways. I think it might be a little more common to have the t5s on the whole time


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[ReyR]

Can someone clarify the moonlight function for me. So I set it up about a month ago. I set it with new phase. Is it ways supposed to stay on new phase, or is it supposed to change to full moon as the month rolls along?

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[pelphrey]

Because I can't leave anything alone I plan to upgrade from the dual Kessil A160's on A series mounts and extensions to the AP700 and hanging kit hopefully in the next few months. Want to tag along here until then!

 

[Malign Reefer]

So I was going to go with the new Radions but after reading this thread I'm for sure going with Kessil.

 

[Shane5four]

ugh. I'm now experiencing the pain of noticing my light turn on and off after hours. This was a problem early on for me (maybe a year ago) but I thought it was behind me. I'm using the newest android app.

This sort of weirdness makes me think.... if the light can randomly turn on and off, is it possible that it is not putting out the percentage of intensity I have it programmed for. teetering on the fence for scrapping it only because of that sort of uncertainty...

 

[bif24701]

Can someone clarify the moonlight function for me. So I set it up about a month ago. I set it with new phase. Is it ways supposed to stay on new phase, or is it supposed to change to full moon as the month rolls along?

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It will change just as the actual moon starting with whatever phase you chose.


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[bif24701]

ugh. I'm now experiencing the pain of noticing my light turn on and off after hours. This was a problem early on for me (maybe a year ago) but I thought it was behind me. I'm using the newest android app.

This sort of weirdness makes me think.... if the light can randomly turn on and off, is it possible that it is not putting out the percentage of intensity I have it programmed for. teetering on the fence for scrapping it only because of that sort of uncertainty...

I wouldn't say it 100% certainly not going to happen, any thing that can happen will happen. However that hasn't been an issue for anyone. It's like saying "my car battery died, maybe the headlight are bad too. It's just paranoia.

I did have that issue, I just reset the light. Haven't seen that problem since. I'm now using the new beta that came out a week or two ago for iPhone and so far so good.


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[bif24701]

Because I can't leave anything alone I plan to upgrade from the dual Kessil A160's on A series mounts and extensions to the AP700 and hanging kit hopefully in the next few months. Want to tag along here until then!

You are making the right choice. I think anyone considering the Radion at least will strongly question the choice once they are educated about this fixture.


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[ReyR]

It will change just as the actual moon starting with whatever phase you chose.


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Then it's not working properly for me.

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[bif24701]

Then it's not working properly for me.

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Why do you say that? How are you verifying? Because is a subtle difference.


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[pelphrey]

You are making the right choice. I think anyone considering the Radion at least will strongly question the choice once they are educated about this fixture.


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I've never owned any other light than Kessil, I recently went to Aquatic Critter in Nashville and all of their coral had either Kessil 360's or AP700's above them.

Very happy with Kessil up to this point, I won't lie the random issues with the AP700 have me slightly concerned. From my research these issues tend to me hit or miss.

 

[ktownhero]

I've never owned any other light than Kessil, I recently went to Aquatic Critter in Nashville and all of their coral had either Kessil 360's or AP700's above them.

Very happy with Kessil up to this point, I won't lie the random issues with the AP700 have me slightly concerned. From my research these issues tend to me hit or miss.

Kessil is doing, and has done, so much damage to the reputation of this light by not releasing a final, stable version of the firmware. I don't know what they are doing? I mean, the beta firmware is rock-solid for me and has been for a while now, but you can't expect everyone with the light to sign up for a beta program lol.

It's really insane. All they need to do is contract a single quality developer for maybe a couple months, at most, and end up with firmware that lasts the life of the light. But, no, instead they seem content with hit-and-miss firmware that has a reputation that is clearly marring the sales of the fixture. :headwalls: It's easily the most well-rounded light that currently exists and with the perfect design since it's the only light (except obscure lights like an Orphek) that covers a 4' tank. And, yet, they haven't been able to provide the basic tools to make everyone comfortable with the light in well over a year. It's like having a Ferrari only putting 3 gears in it.

 

[pelphrey]

Kessil is doing, and has done, so much damage to the reputation of this light by not releasing a final, stable version of the firmware. I don't know what they are doing? I mean, the beta firmware is rock-solid for me and has been for a while now, but you can't expect everyone with the light to sign up for a beta program lol.

It's really insane. All they need to do is contract a single quality developer for maybe a couple months, at most, and end up with firmware that lasts the life of the light. But, no, instead they seem content with hit-and-miss firmware that has a reputation that is clearly marring the sales of the fixture. :headwalls: It's easily the most well-rounded light that currently exists and with the perfect design since it's the only light (except obscure lights like an Orphek) that covers a 4' tank. And, yet, they haven't been able to provide the basic tools to make everyone comfortable with the light in well over a year. It's like having a Ferrari only putting 3 gears in it.

With my tank being 36" the AP700 is a perfect fit and exactly what I am looking for in a slime fixture that is one fixture and not having to purchase anything extra to mount 2 lights together.

In my opinion what really sold me was the video that Bulk Reef Supply did on lighting and the details they provided on the AP700. The results they gave us in that video have made me over look these random issues that pop up from time to time.

I still have a few months before I pick one up, I'll cross my fingers! haha

 

[bif24701]

Kessil is doing, and has done, so much damage to the reputation of this light by not releasing a final, stable version of the firmware. I don't know what they are doing? I mean, the beta firmware is rock-solid for me and has been for a while now, but you can't expect everyone with the light to sign up for a beta program lol.

It's really insane. All they need to do is contract a single quality developer for maybe a couple months, at most, and end up with firmware that lasts the life of the light. But, no, instead they seem content with hit-and-miss firmware that has a reputation that is clearly marring the sales of the fixture. :headwalls: It's easily the most well-rounded light that currently exists and with the perfect design since it's the only light (except obscure lights like an Orphek) that covers a 4' tank. And, yet, they haven't been able to provide the basic tools to make everyone comfortable with the light in well over a year. It's like having a Ferrari only putting 3 gears in it.

Yea I'm sorry for the guys how have the quirkiness going on, for a fixture as polished as it is the software/firmware does lag behind it seems. Thankfully I and most others seem to not experience those things. I play around with settings from time to time because I'm part of the beta but really it's intended to set and forget. You get the best coral performance that way too. My corals look amazing under this light and I have decided to scrap T5 plans because I love the sleek look and don't want to compromise that awesomeness.


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[ktownhero]

With my tank being 36" the AP700 is a perfect fit and exactly what I am looking for in a slime fixture that is one fixture and not having to purchase anything extra to mount 2 lights together.

In my opinion what really sold me was the video that Bulk Reef Supply did on lighting and the details they provided on the AP700. The results they gave us in that video have made me over look these random issues that pop up from time to time.

I still have a few months before I pick one up, I'll cross my fingers! haha

Yep it's the perfect light for all of the typical tank sizes. Quick break down of typical sizes:

1 x 24" ($900) = keep anything
1 x 36" ($900) = keep anything
1 x 48" ($900) = mixed reef
2 x 48" ($1800) = keep anything
2 x 72" ($1800) = SPS heavy mixed reef
2 x 96" = ($1800) mixed reef
3 x 96" ($2500) = Keep anything

Meanwhile, other high quality lights with bizarro spread to sell more fixtures, like an XR30w Pro look more like this:

1 x 24" ($800) = keep anything
1 x 36" ($800) = ehhhh, maybe a mixed reef but probably won't work
2 x 36" ($1600) = keep anything with enormous overlap in spread and essentially wasted expense
1 x 48" = Nope, not an option
2 x 48" ($1600) = keep anything
2 x 72" = Nope, not an option
3 x 72" ($2400) = Probably can keep anything
2 x 96" = Nope, not an option
3 x 96" ($3200) = Barely an option, can maybe have a mixed reef
4 x 96" ($4000) = Can keep anything

People really under estimate how crappy most other lights are for not providing an amount of spread that works evenly with 2' and 4' tanks. And those prices don't even factor in that Kessil actually allows their lights to go on sale and it's not uncommon for new AP700s to be ~$700.

 

[pelphrey]

Yep it's the perfect light for all of the typical tank sizes. Quick break down of typical sizes:

1 x 24" ($900) = keep anything
1 x 36" ($900) = keep anything
1 x 48" ($900) = mixed reef
2 x 48" ($1800) = keep anything
2 x 72" ($1800) = SPS heavy mixed reef
2 x 96" = ($1800) mixed reef
3 x 96" ($2500) = Keep anything

Meanwhile, other high quality lights with bizarro spread to sell more fixtures, like an XR30w Pro look more like this:

1 x 24" ($800) = keep anything
1 x 36" ($800) = ehhhh, maybe a mixed reef but probably won't work
2 x 36" ($1600) = keep anything with enormous overlap in spread and essentially wasted expense
1 x 48" = Nope, not an option
2 x 48" ($1600) = keep anything
2 x 72" = Nope, not an option
3 x 72" ($2400) = Probably can keep anything
2 x 96" = Nope, not an option
3 x 96" ($3200) = Barely an option, can maybe have a mixed reef
4 x 96" ($4000) = Can keep anything

People really under estimate how crappy most other lights are for not providing an amount of spread that works evenly with 2' and 4' tanks. And those prices don't even factor in that Kessil actually allows their lights to go on sale and it's not uncommon for new AP700s to be ~$700.

I am looking for that "keep anything" factor!

When/where do these lights go on sale for $700? If I have to wait until the next of the year for that price I will! hahaha