Kill Method Needed (algae)

Hey Ostrow, Im out the hobby now but I dealt with algae that either is exactly or very similar to what I saw in your pics, I never got an ID on mine so I cant say positively if its the same ill just throw my 2 cents.

It was in my BC29, I dealt with it a few months before I shut it completely down. I went through muratic acid and bleach to clean my rocks, trashed my sand and went BB, and bleached my tank/equipment. Corals and fish were separated in a different tank. Looked good for about a month, came right back from an SPS frag of mine. I was burnt after that.

If youre willing to loose all your corals, acid and bleach should do the trick, otherwise you'd have to inspect each piece with more than a fine tooth comb which im not sure would be worth it. I do hope you find a solution to salvage everything but this algae is no joke as youve already experienced.

Good luck, Wiz.

My plan, Wiz, was remove and ditch coral, remove and replace sand, scrub walls of tank but not acid tank.

Want to acid or something the rock.

Yeah, remember it returned on you. I hope a rabbitfish after removing rock/coral would do the trick.
 
But can I acid the rock, rinse and return? Don't think can do that with bleach....

Although Scott there with the bleach!!

Maybe I should pour a bottle of Clorox in the tank!?!
 
Nope. I have run GFO 24/7 from day one of this tank (Feb 2010). New GFO every 6 weeks.

Folks, this thread asks not how to fight this algae but how rapidly to exterminate from rock removed from the tank. Please, if you can advise on the process I enquired about...

I am curious how you know for certain that PO4 isnt the issue. Just because you run GFO it doesnt mean that PO4 is not in your tank. algae (any for that matter) take up PO4 and nitrate to grow, so if the PO4 is taken up in the algae then the test kit cant test for it or GFO cannot remove it.

When I had PO4 issues in my 300 I would go through half a reactor (TLF 550) of GFO in a week and the effluent would test the same as the tank. I would change it and it was back to 0. I have seen some run GFO for 4 weeks some for 8 weeks, it just really depends on how much PO4 is introduced in to the tank.

This is my .02 but I would find the source of the nutrient (NO3 or PO4 or both) before just starting over, or it may just reappear after you start over.
 
For about 14 months I have battled a losing battle with an accelerating microalgae (sent samples out weeks ago, awaiting positive id). The acceleration has accelerated.

All water parameters have been spotless. Tried all methods. Latest was Algaefix which seemed to be working but turned into epic fail as the algae seems to be thriving on high doses of the stuff.

I am headed to the drastic remove-all-rock/coral and scrub tank method.

Question: when I do it I will have not too much time/space. I need some way to rapidly kill the algae off the rock so I can return (some) of the rock to the tank. I would like to do all the killing, rinse and return in same day.

Muriatic acid? Hydrogen Peroxide? I have some very large rocks (50+lbs) so need guidance here.

I likely would shut off valves, remove rock from sump and scrub sump walls, siphoning.

Then do same to fuge, removing top layer of sand. Scrubbing overflow box.

Then display, doing same. Probably move fish from display down to fuge after fuge is done while doing display.

I would scrub walls and overflow box. No way really to scrub pipes going to basement.

I mention the steps because I DO NOT want the algae just to return at the end!

So: what to use to kill the algae?

Am I leaving out key steps?

Thanks!

Dr. Goodluck Humself. :sad2::sad2::sad2:

The picture posted above appears to be Bryopsis. There are many different types, some more stubborn than others, I happen to have one that is very similar in appearance as yours. I too tried many different treatments. IMO you can't eliminate but it can be kept in check.

In the end this is what worked for me:

1. Remove rock and soak in muriatic acid bath (brute trash can)

2. Allow rock to dry out in sun for a week (very little can survive drying)

3. Place rock in trash can again and run a Lanthanum Chloride drip into a filter sock to remove phosphate from rock (remember all the dead critters inside the rock produce lots of phosphate.) Don't skip this step or you will be right back where you started with Bryopsis, fed by phosphate leaching from the rock.

4. Remove any Bryopsis that you can see in the display system

5. Replace rock by 20% every few days (I'm conservative)

6. Run an algae turf scrubber: when I get lazy and don't clean mine regularly I notice Bryopsis growing again in the DT, so it works.

7. Drip Magnesion P (can buy in 5 gallon bucket powder) from a reservoir, slow drip continuously with a BRS doser, I found this works better then targeting a specific Mg value, many believe there is something in Magnesion P (same as Tech M, but cheaper in powder form) that kills Bryopsis.

8. Attend to any new growth of Bryopsis immediately by removal (careful to dip in fresh water with each tear of algae to avoid seeding the water column) and then cover the area from light with aquamend cement.
 
I used a 1-5 ratio of 3% hydrogen peroxide to tank water to dip some maricultured bases of the coral to get rid of hair algae.Dipped for about 5 minutes and it killed everything and has never came back.I've got two small patches on some live rock that appears to be the same as yours. I have been having some trouble removing it too. Put in a lawnmower blenny, but doesn't seem to like it much. Been manually removing it, and trying to get phos as low as posssible, mag already good.One piece I think I can get out, I'll try dipping the top of it with the peroxide mix and see if it works as well as it did on the mari base.
I got the idea from this thread.
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2464490&page=2

HTH's
 
Thanks Volcano.

If it looks like my pics, don't just remove one piece. You need to remove both right away!
 
Looks pretty close any way.1 rock is a maybe to remove.Looked at it today,harder than I thought.Second rock is center of tank, hold rest of rock work up, so it would be major project.It does seem to come off easy, yank as much as I can, may shoot some peroxide on the rock if I can coax it out of water.
 
Cook 1/2 of your rock. It seems like the idea is to keep it in the dark (kill algae) with swirls in a bucket of saltwater post water change to knock off the dead material. By keeping the rock in warm circulating salt water you convert to a bacterial system.

I have done the opposite "nuke" systems like peroxide or scrubbing in the sink (warm tap water) and the algae explodes durring the die off phase. Just let the bacteria recolonize in the dark. The process is finished when the phosphate if the tub falls to 0. It can take weeks to months.

I find that coralline algae is resistant to overgrowth. If you get coralline going while the rock is cooking you might be able to get the upper hand.

I had a lot of tanks an no problems. When I went fallow (Ick treatment) it was amazing how fast hair algae grew!
 
Yes. It isn't bryopsis. Even knowing that, aboiut 8 months ago I tried the KentM at 2000+ for 6 weeks. No effect whatsoever.

I tried treating mine with Kent Tech M, achieved a Mg level of around 2200 for several weeks, it did nothing as well.

Don't assume it isn't Bryopsis, there are many different strains and they look different.

Mine is very similar to the pictures you posted
 
You might try talking with GlennF. He has a tank thread in the large tank section. He uses caustic soda to treat algae issues. You'll have to hit him up in his thread. RC doesn't give him any privileges.

Here is a video of his process.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah6XwyCw6ng

Yep, kills everything (algae, anemones, ...) probably also your algae. However, it is useful for spot treatment not to do big areas. To much at once will cause pH spikes.

Really easy, pumps off, apply the stuff, wait 10 mins, pumps on.
 
i had lots of hair algae as well and soaked my rocks in a mixture of 3% Hydrogen Peroxide and water (roughly a 3:1 mixture). It killed off all the algae, however, the problem is that if you have any hair algae left in the tank, it will spread again to the rocks. Ask me how I know this?:)
 
I also added a few more mexican turbos, an algae blenny and a kole tang to battle the algae. So far so good but if the algae starts taking over again, I am prepared to take out all my corals and livestock and will dose peroxide in the tank for a few days. Any snails or plugs covered in algae will not be returned.
 
I Will share with u what i have learned in my 3 year battle with HA. Never pull it off a surface w/o following it with a scrubbing. You Will only make it worse. I saw a YouTube video a guy had out where he showed a battery operated subversible scrubbed made for scrubbing grout. i bought one at Menards for $15. It is red. I have a large portable filter i hook up to the tank and then sub it off while the filter sucks it off. i have tried all the other methods to no avail. i do spot treat rocks with straight 3% hydrogen provide and leave out of the water for 5 mins. the scrubbed works faster than u would think.. Once u get it scrubbed off 100% and follow the normal stuff to keep it at bay it Will only return where u did not get it off completely. next time around you have a.smaller target... Try it, you Will like it!!!!!!!!!
 
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