Laptop as a controller?

hebygb

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I have a Mac G4 laptop, and I was wondering if there are any DIYs that make this useful as a controller for my system... software? connections? Any ideas, thoughts?
 
A number of projects have been started in the past few years but, to my knowledge, non of them has come to fruition. Problem has always seemed to be getting the various diverse pieces of hardware required to work together at a reasonable cost.
 
Yeah I just bought a new laptop so I have this second one sitting around. I was hoping that someone had some turn key ideas that I could cannibalize.
 
Honestly, unless you want to develop your own software and interface for something like this, I'd say you're better off just buying a controller. The controllers are designed to do just this stuff so its not like you have to spend your own time or money designing/building/debugging it unless you just want to do it.

Also, most of the newer models (not sure about the AC units offhand) have some type of data logging out via either ethernet or serial lines so you can still use your laptop or some other system to monitor and control the unit.
 
I would just go buy an AC Jr (or III) w/ a serial port.
An AC Jr connected to a PC will give you lots of options and more stability. You can do data acquisition and custom control without Windows if you need/want to. I am connecting my old laptop up to my AC Jr so that I can log all data to a remote DB and control my DC8 from anywhere.

You can get a new AC Jr w/ pH probe, temp probe, serial port, and DC8 for about $250. It's going to be hard to beat that if you try to put one together yourself with all that functionality.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13069624#post13069624 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by manderx
laptops/desktops just aren't reliable enough.

Sorry but that just isn't true. QNX on a PC is pretty reliable.
 
the hard part is getting the input like ph and temp. it will probably cost so much that you might as well get a RK2 or AC jr.

as for the controller only part, you have the option to buy X10 and you can control on off times from the pc software.
 
I would agree that a computer is a bad idea as a controller. They are not reliable enough. What if your operating system crashes while your on vacation? No lights no heat no pumps till you got back :( . I know OSX is a stable platform, but the software you would write for it might not be. I would go out and buy a controller if it where me.
 
It really depends what you want to control. Theres various projects done with PLCs. Interfacing probes in a PLC I have not done yet, but working on it :D. Heres my project to control various parts of the system. Cost $ 140 PLC, $30 relays, $50 other. I love it !!
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13073149#post13073149 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GlassReef
That's very impressive, but don't leave us wondering. Explain the functionality a little ....
Right now I am using it to controll my lighting and a secondary extraction pump for my skimmer. The controlles has 12 logical inputs (NAND XOR NOR GATES etc) and voltage sensors for probes etc. The input part is not used yet. The outputs can be controlled by clocks, clock generators, flip flops etc.
Interfasing probes can be alittle tricky but not that difficult since they are analog inputs.
 
To sum everything up and not to confuse anyone. Right now its an extremely accurate timer for me. the programing is easy and times events anyway you want them 24/7, accurate to the second. With events scheduling. I am working this weekend to have it control my lime dosing pump.
 
I also have a datalogger on my tank. Been working them and other data acq systems for 25 years so rather familiar with the idea. But really, if want something relatively cost effective, simple to hookup and program, stay away from laptops/PCs/dataloggers/PLC and get a dedicated Aquarium controller. As said, hook your laptop onto one and use it for monitoring, displaying graphs, etc.

Excellent list here: http://www.aquariumcontrollers.com/ from this thread
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13073262#post13073262 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Young Frankenstein
To sum everything up and not to confuse anyone. Right now its an extremely accurate timer for me. the programing is easy and times events anyway you want them 24/7, accurate to the second. With events scheduling. I am working this weekend to have it control my lime dosing pump.

The PLC approach sounds like a really good way to pull off a DIY controller, since this is the kind of application they are really meant for- is there a thread somewhere that explains how to build one?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13073262#post13073262 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Young Frankenstein
To sum everything up and not to confuse anyone. Right now its an extremely accurate timer for me. the programing is easy and times events anyway you want them 24/7, accurate to the second. With events scheduling. I am working this weekend to have it control my lime dosing pump.
Where did you buy this stuff ? Was looking online, but only could find info about it. Thanks in advance. I think this is simplest DIY controller that person can build (at list that's what I think). Thanks in advance
 
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