Last fish...

Titus77

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The last living fish in my 60gallon is a medium sized leopard wrasse. If I were to buy a small one, would they eventually pair up and mate, kinda like clowns?
 
After typing that up, I took out the dead longspine waspfish :(. So now that I know that I need a male, I ordered one from my LFS. If I just acclimate it to the big tank that the female is in, will they fight at all or will they instantly pair up since they are the only vertibrates in the tank?
 
What are your water parameters? Ammonia specifically? I would look into why your fish died before considering adding another. I'm not trying to wreck your party but your new addition may meet the same demise.

You will receive better responses about breeding in the Breeding Sub-Forum.
 
What are your water parameters? Ammonia specifically? I would look into why your fish died before considering adding another. I'm not trying to wreck your party but your new addition may meet the same demise.

You will receive better responses about breeding in the Breeding Sub-Forum.
 
I am actually asking for future reference. I am actually going to do a waterchange this weekend. All the fish that died before the waspfish because they had massive amounts of ich :(. I have had the waspfish for over 2.5 years, so I amthinking that he died of old age. He grew about 1.5-2 inches from the time I got him, which is when he was about 1.5-2 inches long. So he pretty much doubled in size. I probably wont get the male leopard wrasse for a while though, considering the laziness of my lfs. :lol:
 
Ich is from a serious stressor in the fishes life, usually temperature going cold , or almost always bad water, usually ammonia or nitrate/nitrites in the water. If you dont have a complete test kit, get one and test all parameters, and make sure tank is not getting too cold, or changing temp. Most reef tanks never have ich because water params are usually very good, and temps stable. I have only had it twice, both times just one fish got ick and it was from during a water change I unplugged the heater, and didnt turn it back on in the winter, and overnight ick showed up. Turning on the heater reversed it, and the gold striped maroon clown had 1000s of babies since, and is still alive 15 years later.
 
Opps, forgot, wrasses need lots of water to breed, very unlikely, plus with your problems, very unlikely too.
 
And remember wrasses are hermaphrodites, if you have a medium one, and it has been by itself, it will probably be a male, unless it is not full grown. They get rather large. If you get a very small one, that would ensure a female. Hopefully.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13746106#post13746106 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stevemc
Ich is from a serious stressor in the fishes life, usually temperature going cold , or almost always bad water, usually ammonia or nitrate/nitrites in the water.

Sorry, but nope. Ich is a parasite that only needs to be present for even healthy unstressed fish to get it. It's kind of like a case of fleas. They just need to be there.
 
OK, the parasite definetly is the visible part of ich, but it is almost always there. How come just one fish will have it? The new fish or a small fish, or a certain kind of fish? It is "BROUGHT ON" by bad water #1 reason, usually high nitrates or ammonia, #2 water getting cold too fast, or staying too cold, #3 reason, fish fighting or just getting bullied, or even a bigger fish scareing one. Stress is what brings it, to cause the fish to actually get ich. If he checks his water parameters, temps, and at this point only has one fish, but with a waspfish and a leopard wrasse he most likely had a predator tank, which of course there is a lot of aggression and space invasion. The 2 times I had it in my tank, was as I said when I forgot to turn back on a tank heater after a water change. I had about 6-7 fish in the tank, but both times it was a female gold banded maroon clown that had it, and all I did was turn the heater on, and it went away, and never came back.
 
billsreef, I see you are a Marine Biologist, and respect that, but as you know stress brings it on. If he did use copper or some other ich med, yes it would dissapear, but the root reason-stress, would still kill his fish. Most likely after some time, and after adding new fish, other tank water, rocks etc, his water will get the parasite again. Then with a stressor, he'll have it show up again.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13838337#post13838337 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stevemc
but as you know stress brings it on.

Only if the parasite is present to begin with, in which case it is also possible for an unstressed healthy fish to come down with a case of ich. While stress will certainly make any fish more prone to such problems, it's not a requirement for parasitic infections. It is entirely possible with good QT protocols to run a tank without ich, in such a case you can stress the fish and they will not get ich because it is not present. Yet one of the good reasons to QT your fish ;)
 
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