SPStoner those are some imperative specimens
SDguy do you have any idea what has made yours recede like that. I hope I can keep mine well, here's the story on mine. My wife had a heart attack a few months ago and she has not really been well enough to get out of the house, the day after Christmas she talked my daughter in to taking her out and this is what she came back with as my X-Mas gift. its in a small 14 gallon tank I hope I can keep it stable, I was almost ready to set up my 90 when all of this happened. any way thanks for the pic's and advice everyone.