Lighting-Best Kelvin rating question

dynaschm0e

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Hi All,

I am an infant newbie planning my first reef tank. I am researching lighting options for the best coral growth.

What would produce more par lighting:
2x 14000K 150W MH
or
1x 10000K 150W MH w/ 2x 96W Dual Actinic?

What bulb/light/kelvin provides the best spectrum for coral growth?

I am planning on a 40G Breeder display w/ 20G High refugium. Thank you for your energy.
-Trey
 
Anyone have any ideas about how equal wattages of common reef bulbs (Flourescent, MH, PC, T5HO) would compare in usable light for coral?
 
well, for comparisons of the light bulbs, check out Sanjay Joshi's light bulb tests on the lighting forum. he has made extensive scientific tests on a wide variety of lamps, ballasts and reflector systems the past many years. Very good Info.,

you seem to be asking a variety of questions in one. for pure PAR value, it is my understanding that nothing beats a true full spectrum daylight, 6000-6500 Kelvin metal halide lamp but while it provides great broad spectrum light energy to grow corals, it does not make them look their best due to the yellow appearance. but it does actually have a huge amount of blue and actinic spectrum. it's just washed out by all the red, green and yellow in the light which also promote growth. so the higher kelvin lamps produce less par but a higher percentage of blue light. which makes coral colors more vivid.

I have seen excellent reef tanks , like a 180 with 3 250w 6500K MH lamps for growth and 2 x 160W VHO actinic for color enhancment. coral growth was phenominal. and color appearance very good too. corals grew to huge sizes. like tree leathers with trunks 8 inches in diameter. and acro's branching all over the place. and clams doing very well too.

so the question is, Charley the Tuna, do you want good looks/ or good taste? the best top reef corals grow in 5-15 feet of water which is about 6500K from the sun. but they wont show their pigment color that well under straight 6500K in the wild. some actinic supplelement brings it out in our tanks.

recently i've seen some club members 22 inch deep tanks running 6 x T5's. and they looked very nice too, indeed. a mix of bulbs, 2 x actinics, 2 x 50/50, a 10K and a daylight. great looking corals and colors.

tank depth should determine the lamps and wattage you choose. depending on what you want to grow.

I don't know if i'm right or wrong. but this is how i understand lighting for reef tanks. the combinations of lamps, wattage, ballasts and reflectors is almost endless.
 
"tank depth should determine the lamps and wattage you choose. depending on what you want to grow. "...I think you should revise this to read depth of coral from lamp (how far the coral is from the lamp)....but the rest is well said.
 
Thank you kaptken and BurntOutReefer. Okay, so 6500K is PAR lighting and provides great broad spectrum light energy to grow corals with some supplemental actinic to bring out colors. Hmm. Thats what I want: great growth and color.

If 6500K is the spectrum driving coral growth, why are most manufacturers pushing 10, 14, 20 K MH setups: to avoid the need for supplemental actinic lighting?

Is coral growth significantly better at 6500K compared to 10000K? If so, you can always add enough blue to compliment the 6500K spectrum to make it visually appealing, right?

Thanks again
-Trey
 
manufacturers push bluer colors because most reefers enjoy them for their own aesthetic appeal and many corals seem to grow and color better under the bluer spectrum. 6500k is not the par value this is the color of the lamp, but most 6500k bulbs have higher par. i like to go with a mix of blue and par ratings. i personally run a 14k phoenix bc i dont have actinic supplementation, but if i had it my way id look into the bluer 10k bulbs with actinics ( reeflux 10k looks wonderful) my acro's and other sps grow fine and colorfully under 14k and many have success with 20k. don't forget that depth of tank matters and the lighting the corals originally came from (this is a wide range 5-50+ft, or aquaculture tanks). figure out your intentions and preferences-look at local's tanks and online pics. good luck
 
Thank you nctommy and skey44: good stuff. 10000K with supplemental actinic grows

Would you get a noticable amount of more coral growth under a 6500K lamp with all of the extra par lighting provided?

Could you supplement enough blue to make 6500K visually appealing?

Opinions on using two 250 W 6500K MH, and two 48" 110W Super actinic blue VHOs to light a 90 Gallon tank for great coral growth and hopefully good looks?

Thanks again.
-Trey
 
Prior to this year I used Hamilton 14k bulbs, but for the last 9 months I have been using XM 10k with the supplement of 48 inch super actinic VHO. Personally, I like the way that the new set up looks but the VHO's doesn't come close to the blue look of the 14k's. Without the VHO's on, the 10k's look a bit on the yellow side, but the VHO brings it back to a whiter light. In my setup growth is great and color is good also. The XM10k has been one of the popular bulbs in the sps forum, most that use the 20k are using 400 watt bulbs to bring the par back up to the 250 10k par range. High par is great but the corals calcification rate will dictate how fast it will grow, and there are many factors in that. The only thing that I use 6500 bulbs for is my phytoplankton culture.
Here is another thread for you to read.
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showt...7580&highlight=use+6500+bulb+for+coral+growth
 
Thanks nctommy: this is the kind of stuff I'm talking about, very informative. So the PAR/PPFD depends on the spectrum of the lightning not only the wattage or the color temperature.
I guess, I need to ante up and pay for a reefcentral.com membership so the servers will not be too busy to search for me. Thanks again.
 
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