lighting query for gigs?

stang02

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From reading the carpet threads I hope someone could help me with the following question. I have a gorgeous neon green gig. My question is about kelvin choice in metal halides. I noticed with 14 k my gig near the end of the light cycle would be huge and stretched up to the light could see at least 10 in of foot. Under 20k he doesnt stretch up but appears to still be happy? I suppose?
He has a pair of picassos in him. He just isnt as big.
So my question in your opinion under less kevin is he striving to get light or just happier then under 20k? :confused:

What are your nems under lightwise? anyone?

Thanks for any help you can give
 
My gig is under 250 w 10k MH and 2 T5 actinics. I do have to use 1 layer of egg crate on the top, as w/o it his tentacles stay too stubbly.
 
S.Gigantea's as you know live in typically very shallow water. The closer to the natural sunlight spectrum the better so 10k all the way. Having said that, they do actually acclimatise to 14k pretty well over a period (adjusting the height of the pendant and changing bulbs at the top of the arc). 20k is too blue for them and I think long term they would battle. Short term behavioral changes to environmental conditions should not be misconstrued as a like or dislike for a nem. Their behaviour needs to be observed long term to make an educated desision as to their needs.
Dunno if this helps?
Best of luck buddy
Cheers
Keith
 
400watt 12k (10 months) and then 20k (last two weeks) reeflux bulb, 12 inches light from water 14 inches from top of water to anemone. No screening, My anemone is purple and it has done very well.
 
I just switched my gigs from a reeflux 12K to an XM 20K. Being ran on a magnetic ballast, I am actually pushing more PPFD with my M59 ballast but I have noticed no change....all is the same. But I cannot disagree with yellow(er) lights being the best bet as they are without doubt, tidal, shallow water species.

I would say that spectrum of lighting is probably nowhere near the biggest driver of gigs appearance. Strive to avoid "fixing" everything by tweaking this and that. Whatever you are doing, stick to it (assuming you are practicing good husbandry already).
 
I currently use 250 watt 14K SE geisman (looks white). I've tried 20k radiums. Not good results (for me). I've messed with 150 DE 10k, 14k, 20k. By far, best "body language" from gigs come from 10k 150 watt DE (IMO, better than 20k 250SE radiums). Currently, I've only messed with 250 watt SE 14k & 20k radiums. 14k 250 has better "language" than 20k 250. I have yet to try 10k 250 watt SE. I may try soon. Some of the best looking gigs (NOT ALL) have been kept with 10k.
 
What you are saying is little different than keepers of other photosynthetic reef animals (like SPS) saying: "The best looking SPS tanks are lit with 10k."

It's about three things: spectrum, intensity, and duration. 6500, 10000, 14000, 20000K bulb all put out PUR. The actual spectrum of the light (given it's within the ranges listed) matters far less than the intensity of the light you are providing, given your bulb/ballast combination. Depending on your ballast, a 14K Radium may very well provide more PPFD than a 20K bulb.....most of the time, the closer you get to 6500 to 10000K the more PPFD you will be providing. But this is not always the case - it depends on the bulb AND ballast you are running, to the end of how much intensity is being provided at what spectrum and for how long each day.

Sanjay's articles should be relied upon for these kinds of decisions. This anecdotal "whiter light" = "looks happy" or better " body language" stuff isn't helpful. Your mileage may vary.
 
From what I read, the OP ASKED OUR OPINION, and, WHAT WE KEEP OURS UNDER. That was mine. From now on, I'll refrain from giving my opinion/experience.
 
skyrne: I have yet to see anyone on this site that has had success with multiple gigs. I lost two under the same lighting system before finding a healthy one that has been with me almost 6 months now. Therefore I think all of this information is very useful, regardless of how trivial it may seem to you. Judging the appearance of the specimen is by far and away the best method of assessing the health of a gigantea. We all know that different ballasts produce different results. But bulb color is totally within our control. Why not share that information as well? What you label as "anecdotal" might not seem such if 20 gig keepers chime in that theirs does best under 10k. I see no reason to discredit a valid inquiry such as this.
 
there really is one thing I would like to stress here, and that is to not try and change too much for these carpets when observing changes in their postures, as these changes happen almost whimsically. They seem to be bothered by the most inane changes, like the switch of a bulb, which the OP has noted for all of us. I think it more likely the SWITCH ITSELF from 14K to 20K has caused the difference in behavior noted. My guess is the opposite change (from 20K to 14K) would likely have caused a similar result. Not an invalid inquiry, in the least, from the OP. And as fishy_clown pointed out, being shallow water species they are naturally found in very warm color temperature light. So providing a 10K bulb is almost always going to provide more PPFD at a spectrum these carpets are used to in the wild - with little question. I would guess that a plurality of the more successful SPS keepers keep their tanks under bluer light but that doesn't mean SPS prefer cooler temp lighting or do better under it. JMO.

Many folks, after reading threads such as these, might feel the need to replace their bulbs to warmer temp light for their gigs when observations come in like these. That is what I would like to discourage. Not the sharing of opinions and/or experience. No one keeper's experience are more valid/important than any others. It is the sharing that makes this site what it is. I hope the OP doesn't go out tomorrow and make yet ANOTHER lighting change, to warmer light.

Some food for thought is that IME, new additions are so mercurial that making changes in an attempt to "fix" something when a gig changes posture is never a good idea. And I only say that because I have been there, and done it, to no avail. How many threads have there been about reefers doing everything under heaven in an attempt to "perk up" their new gig.

I would like to know what ballast taylor t has been using for the results that he/she has seen. Take for example the XM 400W bulbs, I just tried out. You would think that the 15K bulb would produce more PPFD than a 20K bulb since it is a warmer temp light. But on an M59 ballast, that is not the case, oddly enough.

Edit: It would be nice to understand if the bulb changes and less vigorous posture are in fact correlated with less PPFD, but we can't know this since we don't have a ballast for taylor.
 
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