Looking 4: Red Stripe Angel.

[TomStill]

that sucks, sorry to hear it

 

[Pickupman66]

Steve-o, I hate to hear that for ya bud! what are some of your other params on your water? maybe if we see those, we can help a bit. also, did you notice anything on the fish like spots or anything? could have been an internal parasite that would have bee nothing you could have done.

 

[CeeGee]

yup so my red stripe took a **** on me tonight. found him floating along with my volitan lion too. pretty ****ed but its ok ill start over in a week once my tank chills. my eel is perfectly fine which makes me wonder why they both died and not the dumb *** eel. i checked my water and the only issue was my PH was 7.4 but the lights also just recently turned off. i dont know but im mad as a rattle snake backed into a corner of hot pokers. :mad2: hopefully ebay can get me another one when im ready

Did you quarantine this fish before adding it into your established tank?

 

[GT_Jacket]

my PH was 7.4 but the lights also just recently turned off

If the lights had just recently turned off then 7.4 might have been close to your high reading for the day. Your PH might have dropped below 7, which is hard to believe (without a CA reactor / CO2 issue). I don't use a CA Rx, but isn't below 7 the range where the media begins to dissolve?

What are you using to test PH?

 

[Tryin2layadime]

Steve-o, I hate to hear that for ya bud! what are some of your other params on your water? maybe if we see those, we can help a bit. also, did you notice anything on the fish like spots or anything? could have been an internal parasite that would have bee nothing you could have done.

nope no spots i took both out of the tank and put them in a bucket to inspect after calming down lol. they looked perfect stiff as a board but perfect.

Did you quarantine this fish before adding it into your established tank?

no he came from the plane to my tank basically. i think he was at ebay for a day or 2.

If the lights had just recently turned off then 7.4 might have been close to your high reading for the day. Your PH might have dropped below 7, which is hard to believe (without a CA reactor / CO2 issue). I don't use a CA Rx, but isn't below 7 the range where the media begins to dissolve?

What are you using to test PH?

my gf bought me a chemical test kit from tomstills gf's work lol. it only tests ammonia,nitrate and nitrites and ph of course. its not a strip test.

 

[Tryin2layadime]

picture of said test kit i have,

 

[CeeGee]

no he came from the plane to my tank basically. i think he was at ebay for a day or 2.

How long have you been keeping marine tanks? from your post count you seem new to the hobby.

let me start by stating that I am not trying to be a jerk, I am trying to help.

With that said being at ebay for a day or two is not coming from a plane to your tank. Contact with any water from any other system introduces the likelihood that the fish will contract whatever disease/parasite that system has.

The collection stations where the fish are held are riddled with disease. Then they are shipped to wholesalers and finally to the LFS where the fish are not quarantined/treated and put into a closed system that IMO is crawling with disease. They are there for a very short time (even more stress) and then brought home where they are usually not treated/given a chance to acclimate to their new captive environment and thrown into a tank with established tank mates that usually don't welcome newcomers. The end result in my experience is a fish that doesn't last long and puts unnecessary stress/disease risk on the established fish.

Once again not coming down on you. Trying to keep you from making costly and frustrating mistakes. We all lose fish from time to time but it is our duty to do the best we can to ensure the survival of these animals when possible. A proper quarantine setup can go a long way to achieving this. I say proper quarantine because the quarantine should have water quality that matches or exceeds the display that they will go into with plenty of hiding places where they can feel safe. Remember we are trying to make sure they are healthy and ready to cope with aggression from established tank mates.

Also when testing pH a properly calibrated probe is the best way to go.

Not really sure why your fish died but I have never seen pH that low in a marine tank and I have been keeping FO tanks for over 20 years (still figuring out the reef thing). If you tested the water after you found the fish dead the decomposition of their bodies may have made it drop.

The quarantine remarks was to try and help you with angelfish as they are not the easiest of fish to keep. I would suggest you give this months TOTM article a read. Copps is a master at the care of angelfish (and marine fish in general) and the article might back up a few of my claims.

Good luck in the future and hopefully next time you will be more sucessful!

 

[Tryin2layadime]

How long have you been keeping marine tanks? from your post count you seem new to the hobby.just under a year.

let me start by stating that I am not trying to be a jerk, I am trying to help.

With that said being at ebay for a day or two is not coming from a plane to your tank. Contact with any water from any other system introduces the likelihood that the fish will contract whatever disease/parasite that system has.
i understand that i said basically came from the plane to my tank. i stated i got it from ebay so common sense would state it was there. also stated it was there 2 days.

The collection stations where the fish are held are riddled with disease. Then they are shipped to wholesalers and finally to the LFS where the fish are not quarantined/treated and put into a closed system that IMO is crawling with disease. They are there for a very short time (even more stress) and then brought home where they are usually not treated/given a chance to acclimate to their new captive environment and thrown into a tank with established tank mates that usually don't welcome newcomers. The end result in my experience is a fish that doesn't last long and puts unnecessary stress/disease risk on the established fish.

Once again not coming down on you. Trying to keep you from making costly and frustrating mistakes. We all lose fish from time to time but it is our duty to do the best we can to ensure the survival of these animals when possible. A proper quarantine setup can go a long way to achieving this. I say proper quarantine because the quarantine should have water quality that matches or exceeds the display that they will go into with plenty of hiding places where they can feel safe. Remember we are trying to make sure they are healthy and ready to cope with aggression from established tank mates.

Also when testing pH a properly calibrated probe is the best way to go.

Not really sure why your fish died but I have never seen pH that low in a marine tank and I have been keeping FO tanks for over 20 years (still figuring out the reef thing). If you tested the water after you found the fish dead the decomposition of their bodies may have made it drop. they were dead maybe a day. when i leave for work the lights are still off and when i come home its late in the night.

The quarantine remarks was to try and help you with angelfish as they are not the easiest of fish to keep. I would suggest you give this months TOTM article a read. Copps is a master at the care of angelfish (and marine fish in general) and the article might back up a few of my claims.

Good luck in the future and hopefully next time you will be more sucessful!

 

[CeeGee]

well if they were in there for a day decomposing i would say that is the reason your pH was low. I would wager the fish died from something other than low pH.

once again I am trying to be friendly and trying to help you out. I know sometimes typed words come across in a way that one does not intend.

I really recommend you read the TOTM thread. Good stuff.

 

[Tryin2layadime]

the tank lights turn on at 10am and turn off at 9 pm. so from 9pm untill 7pm the next day so thats when they died. i noticed they were dead at like 8pm.

im cool with your words man dont worry about coming off as rude. i enjoy learning new things. most ppl when they pick a hobby after a year they are very well knowledged well i think its a 5 year thing on salt lol so i have a few more years to go.