00Warpig00
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OK here is the situation.
I'm breaking some rules i'm sure and will zip up my flame suit now but here goes.
I am somewhat new to this, been in the Hobby for about a year and a half but only had a tank for a year. My DT is a 180G. ALL of my fish in my DT have gone through a minimum of 4 week QT period. My QT tank is a 20 High with a HOB filter and a sponge filter being run by a MaxiJet 600. I am in the process of stocking my DT and have tried to have at least one fish in QT since I got my DT. NO fish have ever been into my DT without a 4 week minimum QT some unfortunately went longer. So far I have NEVER had a problem in my DT tank with the health of my fish other than a goby becoming a tile surfing statistic. this question is about my fish currently in QT.
I recently picked up 4 new additions that are all currently in my QT. I realize I should only QT one fish at a time but am breaking that rule because I am trying to introduce pairs of fish. One pair that from my reading generally are great to pair up, Two Lined (Railway) Sleeper Goby (Valenciennea Helsdingenii) and a much more complicated pair to pair up, a pair of Flame Angels (Centropyge loricula). I have a small pile of sand in my QT to help make my Goby's feel more at home. I also have several large PVC elbows and pipe sections in my QT to provide shelter. I realize that I also shouldn't be doing both pairs in a 20 High QT at the same time, but chose to take the chance for a few reasons. I want pairs of each, the Goby's easy, the Flame Angels, a different story. It has been impossible over the past several months to find pairs of each or even a single healthy female flame angel. All that seem to be around are males. Recently after months and months of waiting all four fish I wanted two pairs of two became available AND my QT was empty and ready for fish. SO even tho not the best idea I am reluctantly giving it a go due to timing. I always float acclimate my fish and these were no exception. I think next time I add fish I will drip them instead as it seems not only easier but a better option. My QT parameters are as follows...
Tank: 20G High
Temp:78F-84F (no chiller and it sometimes gets a little warm in the room).
SG: 1.015 for 3 week minimum then during the fourth week of QT if all is well slowly increasing to match my DT at 1.025
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite:0
Nitrate ~20ppm
Water tested every couple of days. Fish have been in QT for a week as of today and water parameters have been rock solid with Nitrate slowly rising over the week. As of yet I have done no water changes in the QT but top it off with RODI every other day or so when I test.
The Goby's are getting along splendidly and are good buddies and hang out together all the time. They do not bother the Flame Angels or each other. I got the smallest Flame Angels I could find that appeared healthy. I did this because my pairing angels reading suggested the smaller the better the success rate of pairing. I believe I correctly have a male and female but they were NOT paired when I bought them. The male is ~2 inches long and the trailing edges of his dorsal/anal fins are triangular (assumed male). The female is ~1 1/2 inches long and the trailing edges of her dorsal/anal fins are rounded (assumed female). As I said above I happened to find all four fish at the same time after looking to do one pair at a time for the entire spring and summer so I went ahead. All four fish were added to the QT at the same time. The Flame Angels leave the goby's alone. The male Flame Angel chases the female around the tank a little from time to time in short bursts and has nipped at her a couple times in the beginning of the week but there has been no actual fighting. Sometimes they are near each other and he does not chase her either. It appears as if they may end up getting along ok. The jury is still out. I have attached a link to QT tank pics and a video below.
Now that you all have the build up, this brings me to my question. The female Angel has developed a spot on the very top edge of her dorsal fin on one side. I have seen pics of ich on tangs and such and this doesn't appear to be ich when compared to pictures I have seen. The pics I have seen look like ich is a crater type issue in the scales not something stuck to a fin. It looks like it may just be something stuck to her fin, but I'm not sure. She swims allot and is quick so it is hard to get a good pic of it but I have tried (see below). I have also seen Flame Angels at some LFS's with their (usually pectoral) fins half rotted away with a white crud on them. All four fish seem to have perfect fins other than the female Flame with this spot. All pectoral, pelvic, and caudal fins on all the fish are pristine.
All four fish are eating aggressively. Is this spec of whatever, something I need to be on top of? It just appeared out of the blue yesterday, but is still there today.
Best pic I have of the spot. Will keep trying to get a better one.
Link to Video. including the Male giving a short chase to the female.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln44Tg6SzNo
Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Nick
I'm breaking some rules i'm sure and will zip up my flame suit now but here goes.
I am somewhat new to this, been in the Hobby for about a year and a half but only had a tank for a year. My DT is a 180G. ALL of my fish in my DT have gone through a minimum of 4 week QT period. My QT tank is a 20 High with a HOB filter and a sponge filter being run by a MaxiJet 600. I am in the process of stocking my DT and have tried to have at least one fish in QT since I got my DT. NO fish have ever been into my DT without a 4 week minimum QT some unfortunately went longer. So far I have NEVER had a problem in my DT tank with the health of my fish other than a goby becoming a tile surfing statistic. this question is about my fish currently in QT.
I recently picked up 4 new additions that are all currently in my QT. I realize I should only QT one fish at a time but am breaking that rule because I am trying to introduce pairs of fish. One pair that from my reading generally are great to pair up, Two Lined (Railway) Sleeper Goby (Valenciennea Helsdingenii) and a much more complicated pair to pair up, a pair of Flame Angels (Centropyge loricula). I have a small pile of sand in my QT to help make my Goby's feel more at home. I also have several large PVC elbows and pipe sections in my QT to provide shelter. I realize that I also shouldn't be doing both pairs in a 20 High QT at the same time, but chose to take the chance for a few reasons. I want pairs of each, the Goby's easy, the Flame Angels, a different story. It has been impossible over the past several months to find pairs of each or even a single healthy female flame angel. All that seem to be around are males. Recently after months and months of waiting all four fish I wanted two pairs of two became available AND my QT was empty and ready for fish. SO even tho not the best idea I am reluctantly giving it a go due to timing. I always float acclimate my fish and these were no exception. I think next time I add fish I will drip them instead as it seems not only easier but a better option. My QT parameters are as follows...
Tank: 20G High
Temp:78F-84F (no chiller and it sometimes gets a little warm in the room).
SG: 1.015 for 3 week minimum then during the fourth week of QT if all is well slowly increasing to match my DT at 1.025
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite:0
Nitrate ~20ppm
Water tested every couple of days. Fish have been in QT for a week as of today and water parameters have been rock solid with Nitrate slowly rising over the week. As of yet I have done no water changes in the QT but top it off with RODI every other day or so when I test.
The Goby's are getting along splendidly and are good buddies and hang out together all the time. They do not bother the Flame Angels or each other. I got the smallest Flame Angels I could find that appeared healthy. I did this because my pairing angels reading suggested the smaller the better the success rate of pairing. I believe I correctly have a male and female but they were NOT paired when I bought them. The male is ~2 inches long and the trailing edges of his dorsal/anal fins are triangular (assumed male). The female is ~1 1/2 inches long and the trailing edges of her dorsal/anal fins are rounded (assumed female). As I said above I happened to find all four fish at the same time after looking to do one pair at a time for the entire spring and summer so I went ahead. All four fish were added to the QT at the same time. The Flame Angels leave the goby's alone. The male Flame Angel chases the female around the tank a little from time to time in short bursts and has nipped at her a couple times in the beginning of the week but there has been no actual fighting. Sometimes they are near each other and he does not chase her either. It appears as if they may end up getting along ok. The jury is still out. I have attached a link to QT tank pics and a video below.
Now that you all have the build up, this brings me to my question. The female Angel has developed a spot on the very top edge of her dorsal fin on one side. I have seen pics of ich on tangs and such and this doesn't appear to be ich when compared to pictures I have seen. The pics I have seen look like ich is a crater type issue in the scales not something stuck to a fin. It looks like it may just be something stuck to her fin, but I'm not sure. She swims allot and is quick so it is hard to get a good pic of it but I have tried (see below). I have also seen Flame Angels at some LFS's with their (usually pectoral) fins half rotted away with a white crud on them. All four fish seem to have perfect fins other than the female Flame with this spot. All pectoral, pelvic, and caudal fins on all the fish are pristine.
All four fish are eating aggressively. Is this spec of whatever, something I need to be on top of? It just appeared out of the blue yesterday, but is still there today.
Best pic I have of the spot. Will keep trying to get a better one.
Link to Video. including the Male giving a short chase to the female.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln44Tg6SzNo
Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Nick
