Lost my first fish

D&KSac

Premium Member
I just had my first fish die on me (a foxface), and i dont know why. My Blue Tang had a bit of ICK which i treated him for and accually looks better. I came home today and went to feed the fish and only one foxface came out to eat. Sure enough one was dead in the back. Maybe you guys can give me some insight as to what maybe the cause. Here are the results of my last tests.

Temp 80 degrees F
Salinity 34
Specific Gravity 1.025
Nitrate 0-5.0 p.p.m
KH 8 143.2
Calcium 420

I did add a couple of new corals recently but. Cant think of anything that could have caused the fish to croak.
 
Just a question could flow be an issue with it. I have one powerhead and the return from my sump which is pvp piped i dont have any of those nozzles that moves the flow all over.
 
Blue tangs, particularly the smaller ones, are rather difficult to keep and are very prone to having ich. Its not uncommon to get them through it with heavy feeding, garlic, etc. but given that he was in a smaller than ideal tank, that probably contributed to his stress and ultimate demise.

His death may not have been directly caused by the smaller tank, but whatever it was, im sure the smaller tank didnt help and exaccerbated his condition.
 
I am with Kim. Stress can be induced by many things, the least of which is overcrowding and not enough territory to call their 'own.'

What kinds of food do you give them, how often?

Also, because it died in the system, you want to be sure your ammonia is in check. Depending on how long the fish was dead you do not want to put your other fish in harm's way from an ammonia spike.
 
thats correct Wh1te my tang is fine short of a small amount of ICK its my fox face that died :(
 
guys remember these are living creatures, they are captured from their home environment, placed in a facility, shipped out, placed in another facility, shipped out and so on.
their could be many reasons why it died, but we wont ever really know why we cant really determine the root cause of its death, only if we were able to disect the specimen and really get to the cause of death.
these animals are not guaranteed to live for anyone, and unfortunately its part of this hobby.
 
What was the size of the blue tang and the foxface?

I have a foxface in my 80 and I am almost ready to have someone with a bigger tank take him. Those kind of fish really like a lot of space and they get pretty dang big. I made the mistake of getting a foxface and in hindsight would only place one in a 150+ tank and the same goes for a blue tang.

One thing I notice about my foxface is the he is a pig and can get a little scrawny looking if he isnt fed a ton of food every day. I am sure he makes up for a very large amout of bio-load in my tank (plus a gramma, two clowns and two PJ cardinals). I have seen full grown adult foxfaces and they get plenty big and fat, big enough to make an 80 gallon tank seem like a prison cell. Not to mention the blue tangs get much bigger than that.

Not to throw you under the bus about it, mind you. I have had stores sell me animals, swearing that they would thrive in my tank, only to turn out that they were wrong and I have another (insert animal here) death.

I also agree very much with fishsoldsepertly, There are tons of variables that come with SW livestock purchases. I had three green chromis in my tank with great params, all dead within three days. That was before I had the foxface too so my bioload was well within margins.

IMHO, I wouldnt put any fish in your tank that would ever exceed 4". Its like the time my wife really wanted me to get an imperator angel (juvenile) because they look really cool (I agree!). I only had a 50 gallon tank at the time so I did some research. Then I showed her a picture of the adults and how big they are.

The moral of the story, get your significant other to fall in love with a particular fish, and then use that as leverage for a bigger tank!
 
lol yeah im working on the bigger tank just got to find something i can afford. LFS Prices are insane on tanks! Also after just having put this one together and all the problems ive had with it because of some stupid advice i cant see her letting me sink more cash out for another system right now.
 
I think the best way to find one is craigslist. Before I moved up here to Sac, I saw some great deals on 100+ gal tanks. Its hard to find one that the person can knowingly say they never used copper medications or any other funky chemicals in it, but they are out there for sure.

I might just build my next tank, I have some trick ideas for one that shouldnt be too hard to make. I have seen some cool DIY plywood/fiberglass tanks with a glass front. Soooo many possibilities!

The only problem I find is: gallons x electricity = (SMUD bill + mad wife)
 
Not to mention bigger tank means all new equipment the stuff i have is not rated for any larger than a 55 gal. so theres more money spent again.
 
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