Making the urs more formal
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Gary Majchrzak
Team RC
sorry
sorry
count me out. Been there, tried it. Informal works best for me.
sorry
count me out. Been there, tried it. Informal works best for me.
I wouldn't mind making it a bit more formal.
I like the idea - the challenge is geographic distribution - URS covers a large area - I don't believe folks in buffalo want to drive two hours to Syracuse (just as an example). Not to mention Utica. even to meet in the middle makes for a long drive. If the regions do their own thing it would divide to forum which I don't believe is in the best interest of URS.
The best I've got is to do meetings and rotate host through the region - that is fair and does set up a monthly. weekly is too much.
The best I've got is to do meetings and rotate host through the region - that is fair and does set up a monthly. weekly is too much.
I agree with you Pascal. Rotating meetings between Buffalo, Rochester, and Syracuse (and maybe somewhere else) makes sense.
teamdulski
The Saltiest!
I might be interested in something monthly.
DEEP BLUE SIX
New member
It "could" be really cool. As long as no one who wants to be involved, takes it too seriously. I mean all should be respectful and responsible. But No One should take it too seriously.
I've been in groups before where there were problems because the organization of events and some meetings would get messed up. A lot of good things happened. There were great contributions and so forth & fun in contrast too. But sometimes people the group counted on for certain things would have to let them down, or were not responsible for something etc. That can cause rifts between people when you work on things and other members don't come through, maybe because of a hardship or maybe irresponsibility. But as long as others are willing to step up in case of some need and people don't complain/fight too much about differences, it "can" be a good experience.
Must be kept "respectful" for all people regardless of status and contribution level. But sometimes "formal Clubs" are more work. So, I know from other experience kinda probably the same kind of thing that Gary is referring to. Sometimes it can turn ugly when you try to run and organize a formal group. Sometimes it's too much for some people. Not worth some hassles. Sometimes some people ruin groups for others. If you have people that want to manage it well for everyone and not lose sight of that.. it "could" be good.
Also, would dues $ ever be involved? Most of us spend enough $ on our own tanks and families expenses/school, that it makes it tough to possibly contribute funds to a club. Volunteer services for "working" are mostly free other than transport cost- which anyone should be willing to cover themselves if they want to travel to volunteer at a possible event. But other costs are questionable as to how many people would want to do that. Having dues "could" support more expanded events though and attract eventually some industry guests for local events.
Also,
I know some great clubs that actually have their own club tanks at a club house/ or members site or extra space at a business. All members have the opportunity to learn on the club tanks and contribute small parts of scape/corals as well as system maintenance.
Just things to consider.. I maybe would like to have fun and help the group sometimes. No problem being a lacky to help set up some stuff. But schedules can be tight. I know I won't always be available for everything a club "could" do.
As far as club/organization experience, besides boy scouts, I've also been involved in a wildlife management/fish and game club as a member, a Model Railroading club in Wyoming as a member, and A Science Fiction Club in Upstate NY. So, I know how clubs can be.
I've been in groups before where there were problems because the organization of events and some meetings would get messed up. A lot of good things happened. There were great contributions and so forth & fun in contrast too. But sometimes people the group counted on for certain things would have to let them down, or were not responsible for something etc. That can cause rifts between people when you work on things and other members don't come through, maybe because of a hardship or maybe irresponsibility. But as long as others are willing to step up in case of some need and people don't complain/fight too much about differences, it "can" be a good experience.
Must be kept "respectful" for all people regardless of status and contribution level. But sometimes "formal Clubs" are more work. So, I know from other experience kinda probably the same kind of thing that Gary is referring to. Sometimes it can turn ugly when you try to run and organize a formal group. Sometimes it's too much for some people. Not worth some hassles. Sometimes some people ruin groups for others. If you have people that want to manage it well for everyone and not lose sight of that.. it "could" be good.
Also, would dues $ ever be involved? Most of us spend enough $ on our own tanks and families expenses/school, that it makes it tough to possibly contribute funds to a club. Volunteer services for "working" are mostly free other than transport cost- which anyone should be willing to cover themselves if they want to travel to volunteer at a possible event. But other costs are questionable as to how many people would want to do that. Having dues "could" support more expanded events though and attract eventually some industry guests for local events.
Also,
I know some great clubs that actually have their own club tanks at a club house/ or members site or extra space at a business. All members have the opportunity to learn on the club tanks and contribute small parts of scape/corals as well as system maintenance.
Just things to consider.. I maybe would like to have fun and help the group sometimes. No problem being a lacky to help set up some stuff. But schedules can be tight. I know I won't always be available for everything a club "could" do.
As far as club/organization experience, besides boy scouts, I've also been involved in a wildlife management/fish and game club as a member, a Model Railroading club in Wyoming as a member, and A Science Fiction Club in Upstate NY. So, I know how clubs can be.
teamdulski
The Saltiest!
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DEEP BLUE SIX
New member
Poll everyone one on here- "What they would like to see in a formal club" including "eventual stuff" - not all guaranteed. Then assess the Poll. Show actual results. Then decide on a formal meeting to discuss "where" you could start having at least "beginning meetings" as well as duration and how often. Stick to an actual simple schedule bi-monthly at least at first.
G's site may be the spot. Ask him or suggest other possible spots. Go slow. But be precise when meeting in person.
Don't make those not attending feel discluded either. Leave it open for new attendees always. Keep online URS positive as well, even for those that may choose to not participate in the formal group.
Take it easy at first- you can grow it.
G's site may be the spot. Ask him or suggest other possible spots. Go slow. But be precise when meeting in person.
Don't make those not attending feel discluded either. Leave it open for new attendees always. Keep online URS positive as well, even for those that may choose to not participate in the formal group.
Take it easy at first- you can grow it.
cmof29
New member
I agree. Although I would like to see if we could have some meetings closer to the Buffalo area.
jfl14609
Active member
I think slow is definitely the way to go. I am not sure how to structure a poll for such general stuff. what would everyone think about instead of one group running the whole show three smaller groups say three people in rochester organizing then three in syracuse and three in buffalo then each area would get more attention and it would divide a little of the work load. Another thing would be location. I am all for g's spot but would it be more beneficial to have it at a home rather than a store. There are a ton of great stores in rochester syracuse and buffalo and I wouldn't want any of the other stores taking offence to our group.
