Malachite Green

[shabreeson]

I am making a dry goods order for my reef and I am already getting Formalin for protozoan infections which i think includes ich, Ich-Attack(it says all natural without affecting anything in a reef tank, I thought I'd give it a shot), Metronidazole and praziquantel for parasitic worms and anaerobic bacterial diseases.

how is my list?from 1 to 10, what should I add /change

fyi info on these medications would be helpful

can I use Malachite Green for ich treatment of any fish? including copper sensitive fish?

please answer in order or refer to the question you are answering.

 

[mbbuna]

you say treatment for your "reef" are you looking for an in tank treatment for ich?
i wouldn't put Formalin, Metronidazole, Praziquantel or Malachite Green anywhere near a reef tank.

do you have other threads going on about your problem? can you link them here?

 

[shabreeson]

no I was just talking about the Ick attack stuff, which might just be a beneficial bacteria of some kind.

''I was planning on using them like live aquaria does for their divers den fish, as a extreme preventative with new fish in a quarantine tank

and I do have other threads going on about this question yet the only other answer that I have gotten is...
‘Why you stocking up on that stuff? Hopefully you'll never need it.’

And I replied

I am doing it as a preventative measure. I got most of the medicine ideas from liveaquaria divers den quarantine methods. essentially I don't want to find out that I have a problem with parasites of any kind and not be able to do anything about it. and it seems that liveaquaria has the best quarantine methods that I have seen so far when dealing with fish. plus If I buy a fish I feel it my responsibility to take care of it the best that I can, and that means making sure as I can that it doesn't have, and doesn't transmit diseases.

also i figure how i want to loose money, buying a lot of medicine, or waiting 8 weeks before spending hundreds of $ on restocking my tank.''

so your really the 1st that has answered

 

[shabreeson]

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1247035
in case you still wanted to know

 

[mbbuna]

if your just looking for a list of what you should keep on hand then this should help you out http://www.reeffrontiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27020

remember that nothing will beat good QT protocol. QT's are only meant for observation and to prevent introducing something unwanted into your tank. any treatments that need to be done, need to be done in a hospital tank. before buying all this stuff i would check with your LFS and see what they have in stock and ask them if they normally carry this or that. no sense waisting money just to have a product on hand that you may never need or that by the time you do need it it is out of date and ineffective

 

[shabreeson]

thanks for the great info

 

[shabreeson]

ok the only problem i have is that i wouldn't know what to do with the arm and hammer baking soda for treatment

 

[billsreef]

The baking soda is for pH control

Ick Attack is a so called herbal based "remedy" that is not supposed to effect inverts and such, it also isn't effective at having any effect on ick. So save your money on that one. Best and proven treatments for ick are copper and hyposalinty (get a lab grade hydrometer or a refractometer for this) in a seperate QT. Copper is also effective on amyloodinium, as is formalin which is also good for brooklynella. Prazi is good for internal worm problems. Metrondiazole is good for deep tissue anaerobic infections which are actually pretty rare to come across.

 

[superedge88]

I haven't had any luck with copper on amyloodinium, only had results when I used chloroquine diphosphate. But WOW it sure is expensive stuff!

 

[billsreef]

Forgot about the Chloroquine, good stuff. Probably the best for amyloodinium. Copper will work, but you have to pay close attention to dosage and need to have caught it early on. The Cholorquine acts faster so it can be effective on more advanced cases that otherwise would be too far along to cure with other treatments.

 

[shabreeson]

thanks for the info, I just didn't think that regular food grade armandhammer was ok for general ph contole

 

[shabreeson]

control

 

[shabreeson]

by the way, how important is it to have a Magnesium test kit, Carbonate Borate test kit , or a Kit Strontium

right now I only have a pH, ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate Saltwater Master Liquid Test Kit from API

are there any other test equipment I need that I haven't listed.

 

[billsreef]

Take a look in the Chemistry Forum, plenty of discussion on using baking soda and even washing soda for pH/alk control.

For the reef, Magnesium is well worthwhile along with Calcium and Alkalinity test kits in addition to what you already have. I wouldn't worry about the strontium and borate unless your adding strontium or using a commercial buffer that includes borate such as SeaChem's. The alk has a relationship to the pH, as well as the water's ability to hold Calcium, and the Magnesium levels also have an impact on the Calcium levels. Again the chemistry forum is a good resource for gaining a better understanding of these water chemistry relationships, as well as looking for articles by Randy Holmes-Farley in Reefkeeping.