Man it hurts......

Nek

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Well, I lost a clam this morning. It was my first livestock loss in probably 2 years. I had the 3" maxima for about 1 month...everything looked fine yesterday. The only change, I was in the process of acclimating some new bulbs...I started Monday. I cut the photoperiod to 2 hours a day, 1 hour in the morning and 1 hour in the evening, and I was gradually increasing it. I do not believe this would be enough to 'starve' the clam. What do you think. I feed regularly with DT's.

I noticed the cleaner shrimp on the clam this morning, and I knew it was trouble. When I pulled the clam out, it was covered in a clear jelly...it was really gross. What do you think??
 
I also lost a 5-inch crocea when I added a MH on my VHO set-up. It had been doing well with the VHO for a long time. There was noticeable growth on the shell margins under VHO. When I added a MH, he was dead in 4 days. :(
 
It was under MH previously. I just bought new bulbs. I have 3 other Maximas which are fine, fingers crossed.
 
The clear jelly worries me, i suspect your clam was killed and eaten.

I asked Dr. ron about this exact problem when I found dead snails each morning covered in clear jelly, he said this was characteristic of a certain type of rare predatory worm called "oenone." These worms also eat clams, he said. I never caught mine but i found out what rock he was in and did a FW dip long enough to kill the worm.

Good luck. He suggested to me that i could look at night to try to find the worm, that way you won't have to FW dip all of your rocks, just the one he is living in. He also said they are bright orange, and smooth, and look different from ordinary bristle worms.
 
Oh great.......Thanks for the good news.....:rolleyes:

The tank is over 5 years old, so there is no way I am taking out the rock. The belly of the clam was still intact, as I wanted to see if it was starving or not. Ive never seen a worm as such, but I guess now I have to start looking.

Figures the one rare thing
I have in my tank ends up being a predatory worm.:confused:
 
Did the jelly dissipate easily???

When I picked the clam out of the tank, the jelly was hanging all over it, kinda like something was slimed in ghostbusters. It wouldnt come off.
 
I had a different type of predator. Originally, I thought I had some sort of bacterial infection, but actually I found they were these really tiny snail-like critters. They were about 3mm long by 1mm wide. The white shell had brown stripes.

The little b a s t a r d s would only come out at night. So I didn't know what was attacking my clams until one night I decided to take a quick peak with a flashlight. One of my T. derasas was under attack by at least 30 of these things. It was completely overwhelmed. I lifted the clam out of the water, and it basically dissolved as I lifted it out.

I've noticed that these things are more likely to attack my smaller clams. Indeed, they've been attacking all my clams. The mantles have tell-tale signs of their attacks. They look a little withdrawn and maybe as if a chunk had been bitten off. They killed off two of my clams already.

They actually like to coordinate group attacks. Don't ask me how. I pulled a stomatella off it's shell by accident, and it fell to the substrate. I walked away for about one minute. When I came back, that poor stomatella was engulfed by these things. These guys are like vultures... they didn't care about daylight in light of this easy meal.

These aren't like those little white snails. Those guys are nothing compared to these brown striped critters. I've been unsuccessful in removal them manually. But what I've noticed is that they cannot traverse over any SPS. So I moved/mounted all clams on top of or into a montipora capricornis. They've been fine ever since.

I've changed bulbs, performed water changes, never fed, and things are fine. They've been extremely hardy ever since I moved them to their "protected" sites. The mantles have grown back and the shells are growing fine.

So in my honest opinion, if a snail is going to go down, there has to be some predator involved. Keep your eyes open.
 
nek,

when i had one of those worms the slime did not fall off when i removed the dead snails. it also smelled worse than just about anything.
 
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