mantis with a lionfish?

bues0022

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I'm planning how to setup my 30ga. cube that is plumbed into my 58ga. tank. Since I'm getting a TBS package for my 58, I'm almost assuming I'll find a mantis. That said, in the 30 I want a lionfish. Will the lionfish and a mantis coexist? If so, can I get away with a shallow sand bed, or do I need a deep sand bed?
 
well first of all, you can only fit a dwarf lion in a 30. assuming you know that.

at any rate, no. lion will try to eat the mantis and what happens after that can be ugly. A mantis has killed a lion from the inside before, then died itself from suffocation.
 
yup, I'm aware that I"m going to be getting a dwarf or fuzzy dwarf lion. WOW! mantis killed a lion from the inside? I feel bad for both of them. Thanks for the heads up, no go on the mantis then.
 
My roomate had a lionfish that we suspect was killed by his hitchhiker mantis. From how is lionfish behaved, I doubt it would go after the mantis, since its more of an ambush type. I'm sure the mantis would be aware of the lionfish enough to stay away or see it coming.
 
a lion's first nature is to go after fish and inverts that fit in its mouth. after all, shrimp do make a good portion of a lion's diet. While i know a mantis isn't a shrimp technically, i would worry about a small mantis out on a food foraging expedition. remember, just because you might only ever see the mantis hiding from you, it doesnt mean it hides all the time. especially such an active species as N. wennerae.

edit: and one more thing, a lion's hunting behaviour is an amazing ritual to watch. dont miss out on it if you ever get the chance to see it. The lion will spread its "wings" out wide to corner and corral the prey into a corner. the huge fins distract the prey and some dwarf lion species actually shake their fins to confuse the prey further. the reason i bring this up is that during a hunt, a lions behaviour is designed to confuse the prey (a mantis in our case) so that it kind of forgets the fact that it's even being hunted.
 
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Ryan, if you get any Mantis on your rock, I will take it. I am looking for one right now anyways.
 
I wouldn't do it! I eventually caught the mantis out of my dt. (3" smithii) because I cracked it after it had killed one of my blennys and my tiny rock cod. Both of these fish lived right in amongst the rock and I think that's why they copped it. They are the only fish I have lost from that tank and I reckon its coz they were swimming right past its hole.
 
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