Mark's 150 (72x18x27)

My first and last large tank.

After almost a year of having a big upgrade approved I finally pulled the trigger on a large tank.

I had been trying to decide between a 150 and a 180. The 180 is 24 inches wide which greatly increases aquascaping options, but I've always preferred taller tanks. What finally sealed the deal was simple physics. Even with handles removed a 180 gallon tank and stand will not fit into the basement without removing the entire door. I'm not a DIY'er and the wife would have nothing to do with door removal so the choice of the 150 was set.

The tank and stand will arrive Sunday evening.

Equipment List:
  • Marineland/Perfecto 150 gallon (72x18x27) tank with dual corner Durso overflows and glass tops
  • Monterey Stand (from Marineland's Q&A pages):
    Outside dimensions: 74.250 19.500 34.500
    It has 3 doors.
    The two ends are NOT removable.
    Interior dimensions: 69.750 15.750 31.000
    2 rear braces
    Tank Cavity: 72.750 18.750 2.000
    Door opening: (1) 15.675(w) (1) 40.675(w) 25.750(h)
    BREX
  • 2 - MP40's (one on the 40, new one purchased)
  • Ecotech Battery Backup
  • Trigger Systems Ruby 36S sump (36x15x16)
  • Maxspect Razor 300W 16K (43.5"), will combine with my 27" Razor
  • SWC Xtreme 180 Cone Protein Skimmer purchased, will arrive sometime next week.
  • EHEIM 1262 for the return pump
  • CaribSea Seaflor Special Grade Reef Sand
  • Eheim-JAGER TS Heater - 250 watt (undersized)
  • Used Reefkeeper Lite with Temp Probe and PC4 (4 outlets)

I have a 180 GPD (dual membrane) Spectrapure RO/DI that is still running 0 TDS (handheld temperature correcting meter) even though the DI filter is over a year old. I've replaced the sediment and carbon block once, six months ago. On a good day I am getting maybe 120 GPD from this, so a little over a day to fill up the tank. :D

I have always used Kent Reef salt but will be switching to Reef Crystals for this tank because I have a full box of it.

I hate the idea of cycling a new tank, but I like the idea of doing it right and using all new rock. In the end I think I will transfer most of the 40 over, bubble algae, sand, and all. At least I don't have any (visible) aptasia thanks to the berghia I used a few months back. I love the 2 year old sand, critters, and muck that makes my 40 such a stable tank.

I am still pondering the fate of my 46. My bubble tip anemone will be coming over on his rock, as will all the fish except the Purple terror (Dottyback) who will be going back to the LFS. THe 46 has apatasia and lots and lots ... and lots of bubble algae.

Plumbing?

I had this grand plan of mostly PVC plumbing but the non DIY'er in me is throwing a fit. The value of being able to close off a return rather than just filling up the sump with excess water is lost on me. I am still pondering my anti-siphon options for the return line.

Electrical?

I have 2 circuits available and I'm considering wiring multiple GFI outlets under the stand to avoid a single point of failure if a main GFI outlet fails. In other words, non GFI into the stand, then wired similar to home electric to multiple GFI outlets for the equipment. So if the return pump shorts out, for example, it would trip the outlet the return is on but no other outlets. It would be logical to have the entire sump be on one GFI circuit so if it trips the sump goes dark, but the display pumps stay on. Heating the display during some kind of sump failure is another consideration I have to think of.

Not having any of the primary circuits on GFI into the stand introduces some risk that I have to evaluate as well. I just hate the fact that I almost lost a tank because, while on vacation, a silly small drip turned the entire tank off save for a single pump I had plugged into an extension cord to a non GFI outlet.

I'm still working on aquascaping ideas, something I'm not very good at.

The floor is not exactly level so I'll be buying some hardwood boards and shims to place under the stand.

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Initial inspiration for wanting a 150 is Palting's tank: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2191618

If you see any obvious issues or just want to offer an opinion over my choices please do. :) This will be my first full size tank and my first sumped system, so I will probably be making a few obvious mistakes that I can hopefully correct before filling this beast up.
 
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I am guessing this is a no, but have you ever thought about a 210? That would get you the extra height, and I see them for right around the same price as a 180, and you can use the same stand/canopy as a 180
 
24" won't fit through the doors, I'm limited to 23" max with handle removed from door. :mad:

Sounds like you should be redesigning your house then :p

Very much looking forward to your build, seems like you really took your time, so I am looking forward to this.

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Do you have a link for build of your current tanks?
 
120 lbs of sand, the heater, and black backing arrived today. I ordered small bags of sand to keep from hurting my back ... 8 - 15lb bags of Seaflor Special Grade and 4 trips to the basement. :)

Ordered dry rock today, Marco Key Largo, 150 lbs total but I have no plans to use all of it. The LFS where I usually pick out my rock decided to close Tuesday. Perfect timing. :mad2:
 
Sounds like you should be redesigning your house then :p

Very much looking forward to your build, seems like you really took your time, so I am looking forward to this.

Edit:

Do you have a link for build of your current tanks?

I had my tank delivered flat packed and then built in my man cave 36x36x72
 
I had my tank delivered flat packed and then built in my man cave 36x36x72

Very cool. :) A 36 cube was my first choice, but then reality hit. I am not a DIY'er, too many other things on my plate, but for those that enjoy it this hobby offers a LOT of opportunity for just about anything from mechanical to crafting to electronics, to computer programming.
 
It has arrived.

I installed the Durso pipes, hand tight plus 1/4 turn and then filled the overflows for an ongoing leak test.

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I've got all of the plumbing parts I need (I think!). Slip fit from the Durso to a union, then barbed fittings (whatever these are called) for both the overflow and supply. Overflow will be flexible "sump" hose while the supply is reinforced silicone. On the overflow the flexible hose convert back to 1" PVC pipes which will slide in the Trigger sump sock holders. I do not plan to use the filter socks and instead let the pvc extend to an inch or so above the bottom of the sump, well under water.
 
Coming along!! Congrats on the new tank.

Interested in how that Maxspect Razor will do for your tank. Replacing The MH and T5HO bulbs in my fixture is getting to be a pain the wallet :).
 
Coming along!! Congrats on the new tank.

Interested in how that Maxspect Razor will do for your tank. Replacing The MH and T5HO bulbs in my fixture is getting to be a pain the wallet :).

Hi Palting, thanks for visiting! I am curious as well since I'll be using both the 43.5" plus my 27 inch fixture once my 40 is torn down. I'm worried I'm going to have to scape carefully to avoid dealing with a lot of shadows.
 
Looking good! :) Can I ask why you are not running socks? Pods?

Thanks!

I don't like to run any media that captures dirt and will lead to nitrates if I forget to change it. I hope to be able to vac the sump on a regular basis to remove any buildup, but since this is my first time running a sump I will be learning as a go along. :) This is why unions are an important part of my plumbing plan, in case I need to change anything in the future.
 
Pipe and hose cut and everything dry fitted.

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Large image: http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/2000x2000q98/855/kubr.jpg

See any issues? :uhoh2:

I'm also leak testing the bulkheads. No leaks after 2 days, even with me futzing around with the pipes below.

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I bought a bunch of unions just in case I want to re-do the plumbing. I'm extremely nervous about gluing the pipe and union to the bulkhead since it's the critical piece that can't fail. :)
 
I could not bring myself to glue the pipes yesterday so I hung up the light instead.

I had originally planned to hang both of my razors over this tank but I centered the big razor and it looks pretty good. PAR is OK, but I'm just not sure if I'm going to be satisfied or not.

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This is with glass lids closed but no water. I'm not sure how much saltwater will attenuate the PAR readings and these are uncorrected for blue light so the actual values might be 10% higher or so.

The light is 8.5 inches above the glass, 90 degree stock lenses, and both channels at 100%. If those numbers hold well with water then SPS can certainly do well half way up the tank with lower light corals in the sandbed. I have an embarrassing number of supplemental light options in the form of 24" and 36" BML strips and 36" AquaticLife 1W LED fixtures.
 
Took a half day vacation today and got the plumbing done, then filled with freshwater for the leak test, which went well. A few minor drops from the crimp connections, all fixed ... maybe. Boy am I glad I kept my Python from the freshwater days.

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I used a pond pump to empty the sump into the display, and the python to empty the display. Then I thought what the hell, and dumped the sand into the display and made a heck of a mess so the Python could suck it out while draining. Finally once emptied I put a bunch of rocks in, moved them around, moved them around some more, smashed my fingers, pinched my fingers, cut my fingers, but did not break the tank. :D

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I'm not super happy with the scape, and I'm trying to figure in my head where the rocks from the 40 will go so I'll probably take a few of the taller rocks out. I also found a small drip on the left side where the sump hose attaches to a screw in crimp type of connection. Both sides of the connection apparently have a very slow leak. I suppose I could just slap some silicone on it and be done.
 
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