Mate for C. interrupta

Wow, things are moving so fast! Just checked the blog again. So how are the larvae doing? I'm guessing feeding will start in a day or so? Will you be culturing any specific calenoids like parvocalanus or stick with sieved wild caught?

Sorry for all the questions, but I just love this stuff! :)

Francis
 
Karen,

Based on your past experience, how many fish typically make it per larval run? Or is that too broad of a question?

Tactics
 
Alberta-newb- The remaining larvae are doing well.
At the end of day 3 they still were not developed enough to feed which surprised me since the temp has been at 26C to 27C. This morning (day 4) they have full tummies.:spin1:
I am culturing parvocalanus and am adding that as well as wild plankton to the tank. I got a good batch of small plankton yesterday after work and I'm off today so will go back again with more buckets this time.
I'm trying to update the blog every few days through the larval run. Because this was a small batch of eggs and I feel so lucky to have gotten fertile eggs this soon, I'm not sacrificing any of the larvae for photos. I'll get photos from another spawn (maybe tonight) and post the early stages on the blog.

Tactics-Every species is different and there are many larval runs that don't produce any fish but do help to figure out the challenges. I'm going to guess maybe 4 or 5 settled fish for the first 'successful' Fabio/Faith run. There are usually heavy losses in the first few days, then lower but consistent losses over the next two weeks. After day 18 things get better but that still leaves a good 40 to 50 days before the fish settle.

Egg quality has a lot to do with larval survival and Faith went through so much from the time she left Japan until she met Fabio and produced these eggs. I'm very surprised and pleased that these larvae are doing so well after all that and I think a big part of it is that Faith never shows much in the way of mental stress. She's always cool with everything!

And with the way this whole project has gone so far I think there are a lot of positive "vibes, karma, mojo" or whatever you want to call it riding along with us!:rollface:
 
paka said:
Alberta-newb- The remaining larvae are doing well.
At the end of day 3 they still were not developed enough to feed which surprised me since the temp has been at 26C to 27C. This morning (day 4) they have full tummies.:spin1:
I am culturing parvocalanus and am adding that as well as wild plankton to the tank. I got a good batch of small plankton yesterday after work and I'm off today so will go back again with more buckets this time.
I'm trying to update the blog every few days through the larval run. Because this was a small batch of eggs and I feel so lucky to have gotten fertile eggs this soon, I'm not sacrificing any of the larvae for photos. I'll get photos from another spawn (maybe tonight) and post the early stages on the blog.

Tactics-Every species is different and there are many larval runs that don't produce any fish but do help to figure out the challenges. I'm going to guess maybe 4 or 5 settled fish for the first 'successful' Fabio/Faith run. There are usually heavy losses in the first few days, then lower but consistent losses over the next two weeks. After day 18 things get better but that still leaves a good 40 to 50 days before the fish settle.

Egg quality has a lot to do with larval survival and Faith went through so much from the time she left Japan until she met Fabio and produced these eggs. I'm very surprised and pleased that these larvae are doing so well after all that and I think a big part of it is that Faith never shows much in the way of mental stress. She's always cool with everything!

And with the way this whole project has gone so far I think there are a lot of positive "vibes, karma, mojo" or whatever you want to call it riding along with us!:rollface:
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Simply amazing
 
paka said:
Alberta-newb- The remaining larvae are doing well.
At the end of day 3 they still were not developed enough to feed which surprised me since the temp has been at 26C to 27C. This morning (day 4) they have full tummies.:spin1:
I am culturing parvocalanus and am adding that as well as wild plankton to the tank. I got a good batch of small plankton yesterday after work and I'm off today so will go back again with more buckets this time.
I'm trying to update the blog every few days through the larval run. Because this was a small batch of eggs and I feel so lucky to have gotten fertile eggs this soon, I'm not sacrificing any of the larvae for photos. I'll get photos from another spawn (maybe tonight) and post the early stages on the blog.

Tactics-Every species is different and there are many larval runs that don't produce any fish but do help to figure out the challenges. I'm going to guess maybe 4 or 5 settled fish for the first 'successful' Fabio/Faith run. There are usually heavy losses in the first few days, then lower but consistent losses over the next two weeks. After day 18 things get better but that still leaves a good 40 to 50 days before the fish settle.

Egg quality has a lot to do with larval survival and Faith went through so much from the time she left Japan until she met Fabio and produced these eggs. I'm very surprised and pleased that these larvae are doing so well after all that and I think a big part of it is that Faith never shows much in the way of mental stress. She's always cool with everything!

And with the way this whole project has gone so far I think there are a lot of positive "vibes, karma, mojo" or whatever you want to call it riding along with us!:rollface:
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I agree with everyone else...this is truly amazing! It's amazing how much goes on the microscopic level in our reef tanks. Right under our noses and completely oblivious to it!

How did you learn so much about SW fish breeding? Was is self taught and experience? I would have no idea even where to begin!
 
lol...NO WAY! There's no way I have the patience or attention to detail required to breed SW fish. I'm just amazed by people like Karen and Frank who contribute to our hobby and passion and take it to a another level.
 
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Thanks for the update Karen. However, I only got as far as "I'm trying to keep the smaller food items..." and then my eyes started to glaze over. This is starting to go over my head now :confused:

Is all this knowledge self taught and through experience or did you have some type of formal training?
 
Also Karen, I've been meaning to ask you since you are so experienced with baby and juvenile angel fish. I recently picked up an approximately 1.5" Conspiculatus Angel. I'm concerned because I don't see her actively eating the frozen food that I feed. I do however see her graze a lot on algae on the side of the tank and cyano on the rocks and sand. Do you know if this is normal for juvenile large angels?

I've tried feeding her everything under the sun...Prime Reef, Mysis, Brine, baby brine, shrimp ova, Cyclops, Cyclopeze, finely minced frozen clam, live black worms, and live brine. She doesn't show any interest in any of it. Should I be concerned or more patient? Many thanks.
 
Wayne, Your little conspiculatis angel is lovely. One thing I find that helps angels get started feeding is the regular Tetramin flake for fresh water fish. (Don't laugh! I'm serious)The reddish brown flakes seem to be very appealing. You can crush it to make it small and don't feed too much at a time for young fish. I just use it to get them interested then switch to something else. Another thing I like to use is fish ovaries since the young fish find them appealing. I get them from fisherman who are cleaning their catch (I usually trade for beer). I freeze the ovaries. Cut them up when frozen and make sure not to feed the outer layer since it tends to stick together and the fish can choke on it.
Is there another fish with the conspic? Watching other fish eat also helps them to get started.

Sorry I've been slow to respond the last couple of days. I'll catch up on the thread this evening after work.
 
Unfortunately I have lost the larval run. :( I've updated the blog and you can see how the larvae looked today. http://fromfisheggstofry.blogspot.com/
I know it's hard to ask questions and make comments on the blog so feel free to do it here and I hope to get a better feel for what you are all interested in hearing about and how detailed I should get.

To answer Wayne's question about how I learned larval rearing I did have aquaculture jobs working with food fish and I worked at the Waikiki Aquarium for 18 years. I started at the aquarium on the mahimahi aquaculture project learning a ton from Syd Kraul and them worked in the aquarium's live exhibits dept. I had a lot of support from Bruce Carlson (the director at the time) to pursue larval rearing of marine ornamentals while I was there. I've also worked on my own in my small scale garage hatchery since the late 80's raising and selling clownfish and then trying more difficult species. So I guess I was both trained and self taught.

Humaguy- Jaws and Connie Joculator are doing great and I have been considering moving them in with Faith and Fabio. There is plenty of space there since I moved the bandits to their own tank and I think Faith and Fabio would like the company. I am worried though about changing anything while they are spawning so still considering.....

If the jocs move in with Faith and Fabio then the flame backs could move up to the jocs larger tank. I have seen a little prespawning behavior with the flame backs. I haven't seen any of that behavior with the jocs but they are still young.

I hope to be ready to start the next interrupta larval run in a week or so.
Fingers crossed.
 
paka said:
Unfortunately I have lost the larval run. :( I've updated the blog and you can see how the larvae looked today. http://fromfisheggstofry.blogspot.com/
I know it's hard to ask questions and make comments on the blog so feel free to do it here and I hope to get a better feel for what you are all interested in hearing about and how detailed I should get.

To answer Wayne's question about how I learned larval rearing I did have aquaculture jobs working with food fish and I worked at the Waikiki Aquarium for 18 years. I started at the aquarium on the mahimahi aquaculture project learning a ton from Syd Kraul and them worked in the aquarium's live exhibits dept. I had a lot of support from Bruce Carlson (the director at the time) to pursue larval rearing of marine ornamentals while I was there. I've also worked on my own in my small scale garage hatchery since the late 80's raising and selling clownfish and then trying more difficult species. So I guess I was both trained and self taught.

Humaguy- Jaws and Connie Joculator are doing great and I have been considering moving them in with Faith and Fabio. There is plenty of space there since I moved the bandits to their own tank and I think Faith and Fabio would like the company. I am worried though about changing anything while they are spawning so still considering.....

If the jocs move in with Faith and Fabio then the flame backs could move up to the jocs larger tank. I have seen a little prespawning behavior with the flame backs. I haven't seen any of that behavior with the jocs but they are still young.

I hope to be ready to start the next interrupta larval run in a week or so.
Fingers crossed.
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excellent update, thank you!
 
you can't make wine without squashing a few grapes!! I am sure things will get better with every attempt you make, keep up the great work and posts!!
 
I might have missed it, but are you open to tours of your setup? I'm in Oahu for the week and would love to add your place to my list of places to see. Any suggestions for the reef/fish enthusiast? Waikiki aquarium is already checked.
 
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