Matt's 5000ltr Display

The last bit of plumbing I needed to do was to join the plumbing tank side to the plumbing in the fish room. I was annoyed at myself for the positioning of the core I drilled through the cavity wall. I never checked the placement of the guttering downpipe and the hole hit it exactly. This made the plumbing from tank to fish room a real PITA.

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In the pics above there are:

4 closed loop pipes
The water fill pipe that can directly replenish the tank from the water change vat if needed.
The return via the heater
The return via the UV
The surge feed pipe
The surge overflow pipe

All had to be plumbed around the drainpipe.

Once I had done the plumbing I installed the 2nd trace heater and made a start on the frame and cladding that will cover it all.

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This is where I have left it for tonight...I will carry on tomorrow when its light again

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I don't know how you pulled this one off!1 brilliant must have taken hours & a headache is an understatement.:headwallblue:
 
My last thread was a little late on your timetable. Since I did just spend 3 hours on your thread i feel it's only right to say how I feel. I think your aquarium is so unique and fascinating because it's completely different. From the tank, design, surge, I've never seen something so incredible. I am glad you did not use so much rock; leaving real estate for your corals to grow up & out.

When I got into marine aquariums back in 97 i was a new hobbyist I could not grasp how someone could wait a year to establish a reef let alone build it. Well everyone at one point got into marine aquariums and all we wanted was a quick results and fish/corals in our tanks with in months. WE Could barely wait few day to put in our first fish, this is why most new aquarist fail 1st time around (patient). Personally, this hobby has taught me patients and to appreciate the time it takes to really build a reef (before and after setup). You have so much patients, dedication, & to top it off take pictures in the middle of working hard on your tank, on your day off to share with the 1000s of people.

Best of luck in stocking that bad boy and clean-up. I enjoyed your thread alot
 
Hi Matt,
Just did a total reread of this, thought I may get to salt added for the last couple of pages! Love the scape and the overall build in general, seems we are close to completion! I was curious to your thoughts on the pumps you had chosen, but it looks like we will be waiting for a while before you have been using them 100%.
 
amazing tank matt cant wait to see what else you do with it:)

Thanks!

I don't know how you pulled this one off!1 brilliant must have taken hours & a headache is an understatement.:headwallblue:

It was and i have had time stuck at work of late to consider a re-do. i think there will be too much frictional loss with all the bends and sweeps. I dont have evidence of this as i havent run the cls yet but while the tank is dry I think i will drill more holes through the walls and re-plumb the cls to try and get as much flow through them as possible.

My last thread was a little late on your timetable. Since I did just spend 3 hours on your thread i feel it's only right to say how I feel. I think your aquarium is so unique and fascinating because it's completely different. From the tank, design, surge, I've never seen something so incredible. I am glad you did not use so much rock; leaving real estate for your corals to grow up & out.

When I got into marine aquariums back in 97 i was a new hobbyist I could not grasp how someone could wait a year to establish a reef let alone build it. Well everyone at one point got into marine aquariums and all we wanted was a quick results and fish/corals in our tanks with in months. WE Could barely wait few day to put in our first fish, this is why most new aquarist fail 1st time around (patient). Personally, this hobby has taught me patients and to appreciate the time it takes to really build a reef (before and after setup). You have so much patients, dedication, & to top it off take pictures in the middle of working hard on your tank, on your day off to share with the 1000s of people.

Best of luck in stocking that bad boy and clean-up. I enjoyed your thread alot

Thanks for the compliments ashish

Hi Matt,
Just did a total reread of this, thought I may get to salt added for the last couple of pages! Love the scape and the overall build in general, seems we are close to completion! I was curious to your thoughts on the pumps you had chosen, but it looks like we will be waiting for a while before you have been using them 100%.

Yeah sorry. Work commitments have ensured that the build has ground to a halt once more. I am very pleased with the pumps. I had the DT to Sump running with fresh RO for a couple of weeks, just fine tuning the flow. I had to dial down the pumps because the height of the water cresting over the weir was too much as i wanted as thin as slice as possible. So the flow is good. I didnt pay attention to the noise tbh because they are in the fish room and so the tank is silent. All I can say is they are not noisy. If they were I assume I would have noticed them.
 
I too thought with all those bends you might run into restroction issues. I will be interested to see your solution.
 
Yeah sorry. Work commitments have ensured that the build has ground to a halt once more. I am very pleased with the pumps. I had the DT to Sump running with fresh RO for a couple of weeks, just fine tuning the flow. I had to dial down the pumps because the height of the water cresting over the weir was too much as i wanted as thin as slice as possible. So the flow is good. I didnt pay attention to the noise tbh because they are in the fish room and so the tank is silent. All I can say is they are not noisy. If they were I assume I would have noticed them.

Nothing to be sorry about, hope I didn't come across as another person complaining. I have had a multitank build in progress for 2 years, I know how work can interfere with fun! I hope to do a 72"x30"x24" plywood build this summer if all goes right, hoping I get to steal a few of your ideas!
 
Just spent my ENTIRE lunch break looking thru this thread...and was well worth it
Cant wait to see some more updates

DEF AMAZING BUILD :)
 
Nothing to be sorry about, hope I didn't come across as another person complaining. I have had a multitank build in progress for 2 years, I know how work can interfere with fun! I hope to do a 72"x30"x24" plywood build this summer if all goes right, hoping I get to steal a few of your ideas!

Not at all...its just frustrating that I am still not salty and wet...you'll know this with an ongoing build. Good luck with the plywood build, I look forward to reading the thread.

This is awesome bring on an update

Hi Morgan, thanks for the compliment. i hope to have an update of sorts soon

Just spent my ENTIRE lunch break looking thru this thread...and was well worth it
Cant wait to see some more updates

DEF AMAZING BUILD :)

Thanks Fatty

Sweet aquascaping!

Thankyou. I am adding a little more rock I think. I cant decide if it needs it or not. Somedays I think yes, others no. So I have built a satellite stack of rock that i can add to see if it works, if not I can just remove it.
 
Am I dreaming ?????
i cant tell if this is real or not, its too perfect !!!!
Good job on planning.
Please, I beg of you, please keep the pics coming !!!!!!!!!!
 
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sorry boys, I have been a bit tardy with updates. I will do one shortly. i have been working on the system when i can and had a "to do" list following the last wet test. That list was finished this morning and the tank is now filling again. i will take some pics and do an update showing what i did.
 
I have been stuck at work drawing stuff waiting until I could get home to take some pics of recent progress to give you guys an update. I just remembered that i had some crappy pics on my phone so, whilst the pics dont show everything, at least its a bit of an update.

The last wet test (back in Feb) went well, I left the system running for a couple of weeks with just RO and just observed it to see if it was running how I wanted it to. On the whole I was very happy but there were a couple of things i wanted to change. Back in February I didnt have sand in the tank and the plan was to just leave the tank full and add the sand via a drain pipe and hopper. Because there were some plumbing tweaks I wanted to make I decided that I would drain the tank down, make the changes and add the sand dry. That was back in February, work has kept me busy and sleepless until I could find the "me-time" to play with the tank.

The biggest bug bear was the returns from the sump. Each of the two return pumps terminates tank side via a calfo loop...two pumps, two calfo loops. Each of the loops alternated between an outlet that pointed across the DT surface water and one that pointed down towards the reef.

In this pic you can see the "t's" pointing downwards and the "t's" pointing across what will be the water level.

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The outlets that pointed across the surface have flexible loc-line hoses and 3" flare nozzels

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Due to the extra (albeit slight) resistance on the outlets pointing across the surface it meant that the outlets pointing down took most of the flow. This left me with less surface agitation than I would want.

So the first "tweak" to the plumbing was to remove the outlets that pointed down towards the reef on both the calfo loops. (pic to follow)

Secondly...does anyone remember this mess?

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This was my plumbing nightmare to plumb 4 cls pipes, 2 returns and a water change pipe around a 4" drainpipe. A stupid error on my part meant that the core hole through the house hit a downpipe in the centre leaving me no room to work with.
Having been stuck at work for the last 3 months it gave me time to think/worry about the effect all of the bends would have on the frictional loss for the closed loops. I will be paying the running costs for the pumps to give me 100,000 lph of flow in the tank, it seemed pointless if the frictional loss would reduce that significantly.

I never had the chance during the last wet test to examine the CLS flow so for all I know it would have been adequate. The thing that concerned me was that once the tank is running it will be extremely difficult for me to amend the plumbing and the tank isnt built in a fashion that would make adding powerheads easy.

So while I had the tank drained I decided to alter the CLS plumbing aswell

The first step was to drill 4 additional 44mm cores through the walls.

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This meant that I could take the 40mm pipe straight from the pump, through the roof of the fish room, through the wall and to the tank.

This is view from the fish room roof

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This meant that I was able to re-do the returns plumbing and had more room to work with making less bends and a more direct route to the tank.

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I will update with more pics when I get chance

With the tank drained it made adding the sand an easier task.

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I ordered 1 tonne of fine sand to create the DSB and RDSB.

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The DT took 550kgs to get a 6" DSB (on average) I used a tape marker on a piece of pipe to give me a guide

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Carrying 550kgs of sand from the drive to the tank in one evening nearly killed me. i had had numerous offers of help but in the end I had a couple of hours late one evening open up so i just gritted my teeth and flexed my girly illustrators muscles and did it myself.

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So here the tank stands...filling for the last time ( I hope) I started it at about 2pm Saturday afternoon and it should be full by about Thursday.

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Great update, Matt. Thx for thinking of us.

I'm a little concerned, though, that you didn't rinse the sand out first. Usually it's full of organic crud from whatever beach they scraped it up from and can cause significant pollution problems in your tank.

Dave.M
 
Thanks Dave

The sand I am using has come from a quarry so the organics were of little concern. I did test a couple of sacks with a magnet to ensure there were no metal elements as that is also common in "normal" sand. There were no traces so I was happy to just add it to the tank.

Having said that, if you fancy rinsing a tonne of sand then i will happily pay for your flight over :)
 
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