MD is rude and over priced!

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COCO: Hey, I love Marine Depot. I didn't even have a problem with them not matching prices at first, since it was such a small amount. I have just always been an advocate of seeing an argument from every point of view. If people applied more synthesis in life, everyone would probably be a lot better off. As for my post about MD not matching prices, I did that partly because I saw that Marine Depot reads these posts, and since I had already told them about the price match once, I figured if they saw a little more publicly my distaste, I'd be more likely to get what I wanted.

phlipper84: I'm not sure if you're responding to me or to Bladez or someone else. If you are responding to me, I feel that your issues don't really apply to what I was saying. My point is about the price setting policies of manufacturers that sell their own products at retail, and about Marine Depot's particular price matching policy. If you're responding to someone else, just ignore this part then :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6822802#post6822802 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by phlipper84
To say "I placed a 2000 dollar order" does not mean much.
I don't know what you do for a living but $2,000 means a lot to me and I am sure it means a lot to MD; or it at least it should.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6822802#post6822802 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by phlipper84 In this day and age that is a larger skimmer, a larger Iwaki pump, a ballast, and pendants and some miscellaneous stuff.
If I placed an order like this I would expect some sort of discount and most places would offer a discount if you asked.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6822802#post6822802 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by phlipper84 To feel that they should offer even better prices because someone else has offered it, and apparently they will do that, is not realistic.
It is MD's policy to price match; at least selectively.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6822802#post6822802 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by phlipper84 A LFS in my town has taken to selling things for a few dollars over the MD price since he will save you the shipping cost. People still run on-line for the "convenience".
There are no good LFS's with in 1.5 hours of my home, so online shopping is all I have.


<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6822802#post6822802 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by phlipper84 Walmart now sell things for virtually the same prices as other vendors in town.
I agree, that's why their financial performance was lower than expected in the 4th quarter of 2005. I have personally put things back on the shelf after realizing that they were priced lower somewhere else. I have never had to do that until recently.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6822802#post6822802 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by phlipper84 quit complaining about how they didn't kiss your butt enough
I am not complaining, rather just relaying my experiences. Remember, they were rude to me.
 
My opinion. Marine Depot has the right to sell their products for whatever price they want. Yea, they advertise cheap prices.. but with the cut throat business today online it would be impossible for them to constantly update EVERY item. If they match the price if you email them, then i see no problem. It's up to the buyer to find the deal that's right for them.

I have ordered many times from MD. Sometimes they are cheapest, sometimes they are not. I will say that when I call with a question about tech support on the lighthing, John was extremely helpful, patient and happy to help.

To me it's worth it to help support them when they treat me well. To date, I have been quite happy with their customer service. I will say however that I would probably feel the same way if I was treated rudely by a company. Once that happens, they lose my business for sure regardless of the price.

Good luck everyone and happy bargain hunting! lol
 
Okay, it sounds like most of you don't work in retail. First off, if the MD rep was rude to you, IMO there is no excuse for that. But, from a retailer's point of view, I don't see how you can expect a discount from any company regardless of how much money you may be spending. Sure, there's no harm in asking for a discount, but if they say no, then that means no. Why complain about it and try to hurt their reputation? Was there any wording that lead you to believe that you would receive a discount on an order just because it was $2000? If they claimed to give discounts and didn't give you one that would be a different story, but in this case you went in asking for a discount out of the blue. Also, when you call a large company like this to place an order, you are commonly talking to a sales rep, who has no authority to make any discounts or price changes. And to be clear, $2000 is a lot to you or me but not to any major company. Remember, it is $2000 out of your pocket, but the retailer only gets a small % of that as profit, the rest goes to the manufacturer. If you were ordering a large quantity of a single item, this would be different, as many manufacturers order price breaks for large quantities. But again, not all companies do this, so you can't fairly expect it for every product. Your next complaint I don't really understand. You show MD's price and competitor's lower price for certain items. So what? People on this thread have posted that MD is good about honoring the price matching (excluding salifert). So either order something with a price match, or order it from somewhere else. Why complain about it? There are so many factors that go into pricing I won't even begin to list them, but that's the nature of retail. You can't expect a company to have lower prices than every other company on every single product. As far as the Salifert test kits go, these online retailers have huge warehouses full of stock. Some retailers have higher turnover rates than others. Maybe MD has sold out of their older, low price test kits and only have the newer, high price ones now. Maybe the competitor has a bunch of the older, lower priced test kits left that they are trying to quickly move by offering the lower price. This is only one of numerous possible reasons for different pricing. You can't complain about things like that when you have no sufficient background or evidence about it. As far as the Tunze products go, you are right that a lot of companies have a MAP policy. But you are wrong when you say that retailers can sell at any price they want. This is not true with every company. Certain companies want you to sell above a certain price, and if you don't then you lose your account with them. Now I have no idea if this is true with Tunze, but I bet you don't know either. I hope this gives some of you a small insight into the world of retail. Not everyone will have the best pricing on every item. I mean come on, there's a reason why there are still mom and pop shops around. There are so many more things to consider when buying something other than the lowest price. To make attacks against a company because they don't have the lowest prices around is juvenile and pointless. Now, the customer service is a different story. I think good customer service is the backbone behind any good retail business. If you had complained about that and stopped your post there it would have had a lot more merit, IMO.
 
Actually, I do work in retail. Also a business major. I know you said most aren't in retail, so I guess I'm in the minority.

Now, not that I actually benefit from defending Bladez, but I just enjoy a good argument. So, I venture to say that Bladez mentioned the fact that he didn't get a discount on his large order because that information is necessary in describing the situation in which Marine Depot was rude.

Secondly, it's fairly obvious that every company can't beat every other companyies' prices. Won't even bother with why.

Next, I think any company with good leadership would shy away from massive inventories of test kits, due to their limited life spans.

Lastly, when you say that not every retailer can sell at whatever prices they want due to pressure of being cut off from the manufacturer, that's exactly what I said earlier. Also, mom and pop shops are still around because either a) they offer intimate service, b) they sell nich products, or c) they operate in an area that Walmart hasn't gotten to yet.
 
Folks - this forum isn't for taking shots at vendors or each other.

I think this has degraded far enough.

Thanks
 
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