Mhucasey's SPS obsession

MrineLfRlz said:
Im going to start buying my t5 bulbs now so i would like a proven color combo for growth and color so please bring on the wisdom!
Also i know you said get the 6 bulb ati unit but the 8 bulb isnt that much more $ and like you said i can have alot more bulb combination options like maybe using the 6 bulbs which you said is enough for the tank for par and growth and using the 2 extra for more (pop) bulbs not so much par with the 8 bulb unit?
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If you go with the 8 bulb I'd start with the "Favorite" combo people use which is 5 blue, 2 White, one purple. Most people go with 5 Blue Plus, 2 Coral Plus, one Purple Plus. If you go with Giesemann, try 5 Actinic Blue, 2 Aquablue Coral, one Super Purple. If you can get it, a better option for purple is the KZ Fiji Purple.

If I remember correctly the 8 Bulb light unit will just cover more of the top of the tank, there is nothing wrong with that, as more coverage is better, as long as you don't mind the cost of the extra bulbs and electricity.
 
Thanks for the glue tip Mat, i found a place online in aus that sells that super glue gel and will definitely get some based on your opinion of it buddy :thumbsup:

Display is looking great, i don't think you'll see any lightening effect from the copper in the coral E since your acro tissue is heavily pigmented Matt. Until you reduce the elements required for such large scale biochrome formation the copper will do bugger all good for you imo. In a few months time when you've reduced the pigment saturation levels of your acros i think that stuff will be very handy for tweaking the pop of your more pastel colored acros.

The artificial manipulation of water borne elements to reduce biochrome levels is the only way to make your acros 'pastel' without actually stressing the animal into a bleached state which would not be sustainable on a long term basis - what many refer to as thin tissue developing over time when running zeo etc and trying to force the lightening with overuse of some products.
At the very heart of these rebel water keeping systems is the reduction in biochromes, not zoa levels if you want to achieve long term pastel success. Because 99% of you rebels don't even know this is the reason the number of successful rebel system tanks is no greater than those within the Empire. :strooper:

Stupid rebel scum................ :twitch:
 
mhucasey said:
If you go with the 8 bulb I'd start with the "Favorite" combo people use which is 5 blue, 2 White, one purple. Most people go with 5 Blue Plus, 2 Coral Plus, one Purple Plus. If you go with Giesemann, try 5 Actinic Blue, 2 Aquablue Coral, one Super Purple. If you can get it, a better option for purple is the KZ Fiji Purple.

If I remember correctly the 8 Bulb light unit will just cover more of the top of the tank, there is nothing wrong with that, as more coverage is better, as long as you don't mind the cost of the extra bulbs and electricity.
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Thanks i think i will go with the 8 bulb and i will stick to ati except for the KZ fiji purple i used these in the past and like them:thumbsup:
 
biggles said:
...At the very heart of these rebel water keeping systems is the reduction in biochromes, not zoa levels if you want to achieve long term pastel success.
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Is that your goal Matt, pastel colors ?

I never got that impression reading this thread.
 
Reefvet said:
Is that your goal Matt, pastel colors ?

I never got that impression reading this thread.
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No, I just like bright colors. In some cases the corals look like the color is muted by darker tissue, in those cases I'd like the color to be revealed by getting the coral tissue a bit lighter. The super pastel bleached look like Zeovit is not what I strive for.

You have to admit though, that post by Biggles sounded remarkably scientific and knowledgeable:eek2: It didnt sound like the biggles I know:eek:
 
biggles said:
Thanks for the glue tip Mat, i found a place online in aus that sells that super glue gel and will definitely get some based on your opinion of it buddy :thumbsup:

Display is looking great, i don't think you'll see any lightening effect from the copper in the coral E since your acro tissue is heavily pigmented Matt. Until you reduce the elements required for such large scale biochrome formation the copper will do bugger all good for you imo. In a few months time when you've reduced the pigment saturation levels of your acros i think that stuff will be very handy for tweaking the pop of your more pastel colored acros.

The artificial manipulation of water borne elements to reduce biochrome levels is the only way to make your acros 'pastel' without actually stressing the animal into a bleached state which would not be sustainable on a long term basis - what many refer to as thin tissue developing over time when running zeo etc and trying to force the lightening with overuse of some products.
At the very heart of these rebel water keeping systems is the reduction in biochromes, not zoa levels if you want to achieve long term pastel success. Because 99% of you rebels don't even know this is the reason the number of successful rebel system tanks is no greater than those within the Empire. :strooper:

Stupid rebel scum................ :twitch:
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Who are you and what have you done with Biggles?
 
Hey Matt,

I noticed in your tank photo above you have about 8 Blue Green Chromis Fish. (Nice looking school, in a great looking tank!!).

I only have one and was hoping for a 1-2 more to increase my nutrients for my SPS only tank (they do eat well). Yes my tank is smaller (65 Gal), but lots of hiding places, only 1 yellow Tang, and a Dwarf Angel + Mandarin.

However I got much objections from LFS and posts that there will be Chromis fights, and in the long run only 1 survivor.

How are yours getting along? Been ok for a while?
Did you introduce them all at once? Or in stages?
Bit worried to add more with 1 established Medium Chromis (he does scrap with the Angel the Odd Time).
 
Reefvet said:
You can dose it like any other carbon source and it'll feed the beneficial bacteria in your reef tank. AF refer to NP Pro as a 'Polymer' which simply means is a large molecule carbon.

Start dosing it and see what happens. You really can't hurt a thing by trying unless you've got a high nutrient or EXTREMELY low nutrient reef tank.
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Thanks, reefvet, I'm currently trying to control nutrients without Carbon dosing.. But I may give it a shot when I receive Aquaforst's bacterial blend that I have ordered..
Curious, what is your definition of 'high nutrients' is it a number or the presence of nuisance algea or uncontrolled nuisance algea..

biggles said:
Thanks for the glue tip Mat, i found a place online in aus that sells that super glue gel and will definitely get some based on your opinion of it buddy :thumbsup:

Display is looking great, i don't think you'll see any lightening effect from the copper in the coral E since your acro tissue is heavily pigmented Matt. Until you reduce the elements required for such large scale biochrome formation the copper will do bugger all good for you imo. In a few months time when you've reduced the pigment saturation levels of your acros i think that stuff will be very handy for tweaking the pop of your more pastel colored acros.

The artificial manipulation of water borne elements to reduce biochrome levels is the only way to make your acros 'pastel' without actually stressing the animal into a bleached state which would not be sustainable on a long term basis - what many refer to as thin tissue developing over time when running zeo etc and trying to force the lightening with overuse of some products.
At the very heart of these rebel water keeping systems is the reduction in biochromes, not zoa levels if you want to achieve long term pastel success. Because 99% of you rebels don't even know this is the reason the number of successful rebel system tanks is no greater than those within the Empire. :strooper:

Stupid rebel scum................ :twitch:
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I, for one would be extremely grateful to learn what the difference between biochromes and zoox is and what the relationship of these are to each other and to nutrient levels..
If nobody feels like writing an essay, I'd be happy with some links on the subject.
I'd like a deeper understanding of these concepts..

That glue.. I was on Amazon. Ca that may explain the rediculous price.. Since the Can.$ is worthless right now against the US$
 
Wally.B said:
Hey Matt,

I noticed in your tank photo above you have about 8 Blue Green Chromis Fish. (Nice looking school, in a great looking tank!!).

I only have one and was hoping for a 1-2 more to increase my nutrients for my SPS only tank (they do eat well). Yes my tank is smaller (65 Gal), but lots of hiding places, only 1 yellow Tang, and a Dwarf Angel + Mandarin.

However I got much objections from LFS and posts that there will be Chromis fights, and in the long run only 1 survivor.

How are yours getting along? Been ok for a while?
Did you introduce them all at once? Or in stages?
Bit worried to add more with 1 established Medium Chromis (he does scrap with the Angel the Odd Time).
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I have 9, and they are well behaved. I had 5 in the first tank, and they were there for a couple of years. If you get a little school together, about the same time, they should be fine.
 
biggles said:
I don't really believe any of that sciencey stuff Matt, naked moonlight tank chanting sessions are the only way to get the job done in regards to cool colors tbh........ ;)
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Thanks, Andrew... I really thought when I shared that secret with you, you'd keep it to yourself.... Can't trust anybody these days.
 
reefmutt said:
That glue.. I was on Amazon. Ca that may explain the rediculous price.. Since the Can.$ is worthless right now against the US$
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There has to be a place to get it cheaper than 66 bucks, its only 5 dollars on Amazon US. Did you try a general search for it on google shop?
 
reefmutt said:
Thanks, reefvet, I'm currently trying to control nutrients without Carbon dosing.. But I may give it a shot when I receive Aquaforst's bacterial blend that I have ordered..
Curious, what is your definition of 'high nutrients' is it a number or the presence of nuisance algea or uncontrolled nuisance algea..
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I'll take a crack at this. If you have high nutrients, both Phosphate and Nitrate, and have not been carbon dosing, adding a carbon source could result in a big bacterial bloom, which could cause issues for the tank. You don't have this kind of situation.

Back in the early days of people discovering Vodka dosing, there were some tanks that had the water go opaque white the first time they dosed(too much).
 
mhucasey said:
Welcome to the tank, Mr Blue-faced Angel!

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Name to follow:lol:
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Stunning fish :beer:
 
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